OT: I need some help with my apt managers, Im so mad

[ScotchMaster]

I have a question to start this off: Is a fenced attached patio considered part of the dwelling?

Yes it seams a little childish but I had a very nice large beer bottle wall on my patio.

Well today some tree trimmers came and decided to cut a tree close to my unit. I get home and all my beer bottles were relocated onto my patio table with several broken on the patio cement. There was also a ton of branches, leaves, etc from them cutting the trees left on my patio. BTW: All of my furniture was moved and other things were moved out of place.

According to my contract it says the landlord must give a 24 hour notice to enter my dwelling. So that brings me back to the question is my patio considered a part of my dwelling?

Someone please help cause I really want to write a letter to them explaining how mad I really am but dont want to make myself look dumb...Thank you!

 

[WarDaddy]

I would say yes, it is your dweling

 

[SteveOhh]

No, your patio isn't considered part of your dwelling unless it requires a key to enter it. The property manager should have issued a notice that the complex was going to have the trees trimmed, but he/she is not required to. You can try & plead your case w/ the manager, but I doubt it will go anywhere. They may come back into your yard & clean up the mess they made, but they're not going to replace any of your beer bottles. I'm sure it states somewhere in your lease/rental agreement that they can enter any "common areas" to do preventive maintenance work. Seeing how your patio requires no key to enter it, it would be considered a "common area."

Like I said before, you can write a letter & state your anger, but nothing will come of it. Words of Advice..........Choose your words carefully when speaking or writing to the manager. Get him/her upset & it might not be a good thing. I've seen upset managers give 30 day notices for tiny, minute incidents to tenants who have upset them in the past....

Good luck though!!!!!

Steve

 

[ScotchMaster]

Thanks for the reply...

I agree....Being attached and fully enclosed would lead me to believe it is apart of my dwelling. The only way to get into my patio would be to climb the fence or go through my front door. Anyone else have any info on this?

I think Im just going to drop it....I dont want to start contorversy! LOL

Now to my next question: If someone enters my patio and Im home am I allowed to shoot them? LOL

 

[Sk8r]

I would say at the least it was discourteous: what if you'd had a wife in the altogether, a child home sick, etc?

 

[ScotchMaster]

Im not looking to sue or anything just wanted someone to clean up the mess...My manager said they would clean up the leaves but not all the broken glass from the shattered beer bottles....

Makes me so mad!

 

[GinaSofia]

If I were you I'd write a polite letter requesting that you be informed if there is any future work planned for your balcony area.You can phrase it to reflect that YOU would like to be the one that moves your own belongings out of the way.This way you'll seem more like a helpful resident than a nitpicking pita..

Resident managers really can make your life hell if they feel you are being a pain.

 

[orlenz]

[QUOTE If someone enters my patio and Im home am I allowed to shoot them? LOL [/B][/QUOTE]

If the person is blocking your only exit, and you have a reasonable fear for your life, yes you can shoot him.
if you have another way out, you have to take it.

 

[818]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7418598#post7418598 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by orlenz
[QUOTE If someone enters my patio and Im home am I allowed to shoot them? LOL

If the person is blocking your only exit, and you have a reasonable fear for your life, yes you can shoot him.
if you have another way out, you have to take it. [/QUOTE]

Or you can pretend you didnt see the other exit :uzi:

 

[saurus]

I have been a Realtor and Property Manager for about 10 years. Although the patio is considered a part of your property, it would be very hard to prove someone entered your property. The management company has a right to maintain the exterior on top of that. To make it simple and short, you would have to take your management company and/or the maintenance/tree trimming company to small claims court. Now, this is where you have to stop the judge from laughing when you try to explain how valuable this "wall of beer bottles" is.

Good luck and have a more stress free fun time refilling that spectacular "wall of beer". Invite your manager over to help and then you have a buddy to back you up the next time this happens.

 

[noschmo]

imho, SHOOT the ba-tards! Shoot first and ask questions later. Take this from an attorney who rather have been a Brooklyn mobster!

 

[GTR]

Maybe that's why my neighbors keep all their beer bottles on the front lawn... so they don't get broken. All this time I thought they were just lazy. :lol:

SteveU

 

[saurus]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7444879#post7444879 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by noschmo
Take this from an attorney who rather have been a Brooklyn mobster!

Aren't they one in the same? :lol: :lol: :lol: :bum:

 

[omeg]

no offense, but I think it'll be much easier for you to clean it then to deal with your managers or the tree company.

usually with apts, the lease spells out everything you could possibly think of - typically, the apt mgmt has the right to perform maintenance on any part of the exterior.

If you're really ****ed with the tree company though, a couple of nails in the trees can be pretty payback (there's a few things you can learn from tree huggers!!) - but then you might set injury to those guys holding the sawblades the next time and that might land you with a big lawsuit!