OT: looking for loan and real estate help

Kenfuzed

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As many of you know from my tank selling thread, we are looking to buy a house. We have spoken to one broker about a loan and have been given a verbal ok on a loan. Before we go signing anything I'd like to explore my options with any other local companies. I don't want to give out any personal info here but if you are in the "biz" and local to the San Gabriel valley (I live in Arcadia) please send me a PM so we can talk.

Thanks,
Ken
 
Been receiving a few responses and I think I should specify a few things first. We are looking for an established real estate funding company with residential experience. Nothing personal against those trying to work their businesses out of their living rooms but we want to deal with well established companies whom we may research their credibility.
I spoke with someone earlier who sounds very good so I may not need to pursue this any further.

Thank you to everyone who responded. I greatly appreciate all the help and advice.
 
I would recommend working with the larger firms like ameriquest Washington Mutual B of a coming from a real-estate and investment background these large firms have extensive money lines and have a service standard in order to compete if you go with the mom and pop type shops you may have a better more one on one feel but you also may have points and hidden fees attached to you're loan if you're not careful. if you need more info pm me and I can put you inline with the right people.

cb
 
^^ i don't agree, those guys will not get you the best rates. when i purchased my house, wamu, wells, countrywide, etc all quoted me all in rates that were 10-15bps higher than the mortgage broker i ended up closing the deal with.

the quick way to spot hidden fees is look at the spread between your interest rate and your apr.....the larger the spread, the more fees are tucked in.
 
If you or your wife works with the City of State goverment you can get a Calpers home loan with a great rate and 2 float downs. Credit Unions gerenally have a slightly better rate than major banks. You can try www.etrade.com which been around for a while. You can get different rates on their website depending if you want to pay points, zero points or even negative points.

www.zillow.com is an excellent site to get a general idea what your home is worth and what home you want to purchase is worth. Enter the address and it will give you the sq, footage, # of rooms, etc. of that particular home (All public record). Its free to use too!
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7208485#post7208485 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Wilafur
^^ i don't agree, those guys will not get you the best rates. when i purchased my house, wamu, wells, countrywide, etc all quoted me all in rates that were 10-15bps higher than the mortgage broker i ended up closing the deal with.


I couldn't agree more, besides, your loans going to get sold to one of these big company's anyway. I\we worked with our realtors in house broker on both our house purchases. The last guy not only locked us in on good rate but lowered the rate from 5.75 to 5.35 just a few days before we closed escrow. When they tell you your locked in and the rate goes down, just threaten to can the deal and you'll see how fast they lower it.

I don't know how thing are now (buyers market) but 3 years ago when it was a sellers market it was a waste of time to walk into a house without an official letter telling the seller your "approved" for the purchase amount.

Good luck Ken
 
zillow doesn't work so well with the LA market. It may reflect "reasonable" values, but there's nothing "reasonable" about the pricing in the LA market. It listed a place a block away from me at about 25% below what it sold for....as a tear down.

I agree with Wilbur and Golfish. Find a GOOD independent broker. They get you better rates. In the end your mortgage gets sold to countrywide or whomever anyways though.

My personal opinion as well--beware interest only loans unless you KNOW that you will pay the principal down along the way. This market is gonna at least soften sometime soon and if your interest only comes due at the wrong time you will be completely hosed.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7208860#post7208860 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Reefrookie2006
Try to apply Wescom Credit Union Loan. You won't pay middle man money

That's a good suggestion. If you belong to a Credit Union its not a bad place to start
 
I agree with the credit unions. The other best place is word of mouth from friends who have recently purchased homes. Be aware there are direct lenders and then there are brokers who can shop for the best rates. No matter how good a deal you think you are getting, it pays to get at least 4-5 quotes from various lenders.

However, before you jump in I would research, research, research so that you are an educated consumer!
 
Hey Kenfuzed, I just recently sold a local reefer's home and referred him to a Realtor in Texas who found and sold him a house. I met him through reefcentral and have been in contact with him ever since. I would be happy to refer you to a few local mortgage brokers who know the business and can be trusted. We have been in the Real Estate business for over 25 years and it is a family run business. I think it was you that came and picked up a couple phosban reactors from the office if I am not mistaken. Regardless, please don't hesitate to give me a call with any questions you may have. We have a in house mortgage broker who works out of our office and he is available anytime. I would recommend you talk with atleast 4 different brokers to compare and see who can not only get you the best deal but can be trusted. In todays market, you really have to pay attention to the "fine print". It won't take long to be "finessed" by a sweet talker. The best deal is not always "the best deal". Good luck in whatever you decide.

Cheers,

Clinton Ludecke
626-233-4254

Century 21 Ludecke
20 East Foothill Blvd Ste 105
Arcadia, Ca 91006

626-445-0123
626-445-7084
 
Country Wide is not a big buyer of loans they do alot of servicing but sell alot of there loans.

We are direct Lenders as well as brokers. In the industry were reffered to as bankers
 
There is already some great advice here for you. I will also agree that you should go with an independent broker over a correspondent or bank. The reason being is that you will have more flexibility, and often times the Broker will have some lattitude that believe it or not, the bank itself doesn't have. Being able to pull a deal from one source and send it to another if rates drop is a nice option. One more thing about brokers, we have to show you how much we made from the bank on the loan. The bank doesn't disclose that, and many times when you are getting a "no points, or no fee" deal, the bank or correspondent just backdoored you for a nice sum of change.

Credit Unions can be a good source for a loan from time to time, but because they are portfolio lenders and the RE market has slowed, they might be cutting back on their RE loans and focusing on building their portfolio in other areas. Additionally, while credit unions are easy to work with, they do not have the most flexible underwriting in the industry. If you have any special circumstances or issues, definitely go the broker route. If you do look into credit unions Wescom is a good suggestion. I'm a member there and get excellent service.

Now for some advice on programs: If you are comming in with 10% down, you will probably see some come ons from people trying to set you up with "option arms", "defered interest programs", "flex pay loans" etc. Run like hell as these folks are just trying to get you into a high bps spread deal that pays them on the back end and leaves you in a screwed up equity position down the road. Even if you were going to pay the I/O option on one of these loans, the margins on them at max rebate to the broker/correspondent, will result in a much higher fully indexed rate than a traditional I/O product.

Find someone who will lay their cards out on the table so you know you're not getting sold the program that makes the most rebate for the L.O., but rather the program that makes the most sense for you. Think realistically about how long you plan to be in the house and bear than in mind when making decisions.

If you need any assistance, feel free to shoot me a PM here or give me a call at 310-594-1023. I've worked both the correspondent (bank) and broker side of the business and know the motivators for Loan Officers in both situations.

One last thought, you are starting your buying process just as prices are starting to stagnate in many markets. If you aren't in a big hurry to move, I'd be willing to speculate that there won't be another prime rate increase at the next fed meeting and that might hold interest rates where they are, while the real estate industry continues to slow. In other words, you might be able to get a better deal on a property in 30-60 days from now at comparable rates. No one can promise that will be the case, but for the first time in a long time, it looks like that may be the case.

Good luck,
Chris
 
Wow, so much good information. Very true about the credit unions. My brother works for a large one out of state and while it was a good deal a couple years ago, this market seems to be favoring the brokers. Might be a good time to become a broker myself :p

I am already talking with another broker/lender (also fellow reefer) and keeping a few other names in my back pocket. Between making time to sell my tank, keeping the g/f from going postal over details, and... oh what was that other thing... oh yeah - WORKING, my head is spinning :crazy1:

Chris, good point about not being in a hurry. We are taking our time, but not too much. I've spoken to so many people who say "hurry before rates go up again" while others say "be patient, you have a few months to squeeze a better price from desperate sellers". We are taking both into consideration and want to buy within the next month or two. We already seen a good amount of empty homes and price drops to be favorable.

Thanks to everyone who has chimed in. It's been a great help just hearing about others experience and helpful tips on how not to get burned.
 
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