OT: Season MVP - Nash

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7258268#post7258268 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by E-A-G-L-E-S
until the NBA defines MVP..............LOL
M-Most
V-Valuable
P-Player
-its not rocket science, lol



MOST VALUABLE PLAYER. I guess it depends what you think an mvp is. STATS, HELPING A TEAM WIN, OR A DOMINANT PLAYER THAT IS UNSTOPPABLE?

I would just think it would be the player that makes other teams tripple team him. Or the player that has been the most unstoppable player out there.
 
valuable - if removed, his team would be not good, but he alone makes them contenders.
suns, this year, wothout nash would be just as bad as lakers without kobe....but the suns are a much better team with nash than lakers are with kobe.

I'll make a friendly wager with anyone here that the suns win the series.....for say a $50 gift certificate to any Reef Central sponsor's online store.

81 points in a game, just is more proof he is most skilled player.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7258603#post7258603 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by E-A-G-L-E-S
valuable - if removed, his team would be not good, but he alone makes them contenders.
suns, this year, wothout nash would be just as bad as lakers without kobe....but the suns are a much better team with nash than lakers are with kobe.

I'll make a friendly wager with anyone here that the suns win the series.....for say a $50 gift certificate to any Reef Central sponsor's online store.

81 points in a game, just is more proof he is most skilled player.


i think the suns are still good without nash. wagering, siapin takes that bet!!!:rollface:
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7258656#post7258656 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jjb81speed
and siapin will take 4 to one odds.

LOL................real confidence in them lakers huh? LOL
don't think so ;)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7259078#post7259078 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rtwodtwo99
here we go again!!!!
MVP = Nash
MTP = Kobe

The suns will win in six.


......well said :) - and i don't even like the suns
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7259207#post7259207 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jjb81speed
E-A-G-L-E-S = MAP...Most Annoying Poster.......... ;)

Here come the lowblows!!!
Typical Laker's fans. :D
 
E-A-G-L-E-S - I dont mind you but one question....Why are you posting in the southern california section? Doesnt PA have a section?
 
my feet wet??? so since im a newbie on a REEF forum i know little about b-ball. oh ok........please teach me more! :0
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7258571#post7258571 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jjb81speed
I would just think it would be the player that makes other teams tripple team him. Or the player that has been the most unstoppable player out there.
That's where Kobe loses the MVP award! Triple-teaming makes it difficult for even the all time greatest players to shoot around and the best always will look for the open guy but Kobe will still try to shoot over the triple team rather than being a team player. I have to admit, he's shown more team play as of late, hence the Lakers playing much, much better than ealier in the season. That's Kobe's only drawback! Once he fully matures and understands that, he will be the "Greatest" of all time. If he doesn't, he'll just be the Kobe most see him as(selfish).

I think it's clear now to see that MVP "DOES NOT" mean best player!!! Get that in your head, folks! It's who they think does more for their team overall. Kobe is "MOP", Most Outstanding Player"! I frankly, gave it to LeBron but Kobe came on very strong at the end of the season. No way Kobe is 4th in the MVP votes, definitely top 3.

I heard a great interview by Steve Kerr about a week ago comparing Kobe with MJ. He said he felt Kobe and MJ are very similar and that Kobe is a better ball handler and stronger player. Also, that Kobe is in the stage that MJ was before he started winning his titles. Kerr pointed out that one of the biggest turnarounds with MJ was when during an off-game he was having, he was being tripled teamed all night but kept on shootin' da' bricks! Phil finally called time-out and looked straight at MJ and asked, "Michael, who's open"! Kerr said MJ ignored him and Phil asked him again and MJ still didn't reply. Phil finally asked him louder a third time and MJ finally said, "Pax"! Since then, once MJ started trusting his teammates that the Bulls went on their run. Wonder why Phil hasn't done that with Kobe yet, or has he???

Lakers are young and full of potential and I feel one player away from being all the way back! Kobe starts having trust in his teammates, it's trouble for the rest of the league!!!

BTW, welcome to the SoCal forum Matt!!;) I'm sure you can't wait for this weekend's draft. I'm sure we can talk about it in another thread.

Cheers!:beer:

Roland
 
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7260238#post7260238 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Old Yeller Tang
That's where Kobe loses the MVP award! Triple-teaming makes it difficult for even the all time greatest players to shoot around and the best always will look for the open guy but Kobe will still try to shoot over the triple team rather than being a team player. I have to admit, he's shown more team play as of late, hence the Lakers playing much, much better than ealier in the season. That's Kobe's only drawback! Once he fully matures and understands that, he will be the "Greatest" of all time. If he doesn't, he'll just be the Kobe most see him as(selfish).

I think it's clear now to see that MVP "DOES NOT" mean best player!!! Get that in your head, folks! It's who they think does more for their team overall. Kobe is "MOP", Most Outstanding Player"! I frankly, gave it to LeBron but Kobe came on very strong at the end of the season. No way Kobe is 4th in the MVP votes, definitely top 3.

I heard a great interview by Steve Kerr about a week ago comparing Kobe with MJ. He said he felt Kobe and MJ are very similar and that Kobe is a better ball handler and stronger player. Also, that Kobe is in the stage that MJ was before he started winning his titles. Kerr pointed out that one of the biggest turnarounds with MJ was when during an off-game he was having, he was being tripled teamed all night but kept on shootin' da' bricks! Phil finally called time-out and looked straight at MJ and asked, "Michael, who's open"! Kerr said MJ ignored him and Phil asked him again and MJ still didn't reply. Phil finally asked him louder a third time and MJ finally said, "Pax"! Since then, once MJ started trusting his teammates that the Bulls went on their run. Wonder why Phil hasn't done that with Kobe yet, or has he???

Lakers are young and full of potential and I feel one player away from being all the way back! Kobe starts having trust in his teammates, it's trouble for the rest of the league!!!

BTW, welcome to the SoCal forum Matt!!;) I'm sure you can't wait for this weekend's draft. I'm sure we can talk about it in another thread.

Cheers!:beer:

Roland

Roland,

Here's what I don't understand - after game 1, all the talk was that Kobe wasn't shooting enough, that he was passing the ball too much, and his teammates weren't scoring. And this isn't the first time I've heard that - if he shoots a lot, he's selfish (yeah, they win and all, but.....), but if he passes and "gets the rest of the team involved" and they tank, he takes all the blame for "not being aggressive enough." How, exactly, is Kobe supposed to come out on top?

And yea, I know, if Kobe gives up the ball and his teammates do their jobs, everyone wins (it's happened a couple of times this season), but the truth is, the rest of the team is nowhere near consistent enough to do this day-in and day-out. Kwame spent the vast majority of the season being a complete nonfactor, and Lamar, well, he showed up on some nights and completely disappeared on others - and this was when he was getting touches.

Kevin
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7260238#post7260238 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Old Yeller Tang
That's where Kobe loses the MVP award! Triple-teaming makes it difficult for even the all time greatest players to shoot around and the best always will look for the open guy but Kobe will still try to shoot over the triple team rather than being a team player. I have to admit, he's shown more team play as of late, hence the Lakers playing much, much better than ealier in the season. That's Kobe's only drawback! Once he fully matures and understands that, he will be the "Greatest" of all time. If he doesn't, he'll just be the Kobe most see him as(selfish).

I think it's clear now to see that MVP "DOES NOT" mean best player!!! Get that in your head, folks! It's who they think does more for their team overall. Kobe is "MOP", Most Outstanding Player"! I frankly, gave it to LeBron but Kobe came on very strong at the end of the season. No way Kobe is 4th in the MVP votes, definitely top 3.

I heard a great interview by Steve Kerr about a week ago comparing Kobe with MJ. He said he felt Kobe and MJ are very similar and that Kobe is a better ball handler and stronger player. Also, that Kobe is in the stage that MJ was before he started winning his titles. Kerr pointed out that one of the biggest turnarounds with MJ was when during an off-game he was having, he was being tripled teamed all night but kept on shootin' da' bricks! Phil finally called time-out and looked straight at MJ and asked, "Michael, who's open"! Kerr said MJ ignored him and Phil asked him again and MJ still didn't reply. Phil finally asked him louder a third time and MJ finally said, "Pax"! Since then, once MJ started trusting his teammates that the Bulls went on their run. Wonder why Phil hasn't done that with Kobe yet, or has he???

Lakers are young and full of potential and I feel one player away from being all the way back! Kobe starts having trust in his teammates, it's trouble for the rest of the league!!!

BTW, welcome to the SoCal forum Matt!!;) I'm sure you can't wait for this weekend's draft. I'm sure we can talk about it in another thread.

Cheers!:beer:

Roland

GREAT POINT!!!!!
 

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