Ot: Usda Recalls Beef

last nights news said most this meat has already been consumed in arizona with no ill effects reported. some places that they showed who served this meat were In n Out and Jack in the box
 
Ryan, this is nothing unusual. They just got caught this time. Industrial agriculture is responsible for not only horrible cruelty but such bad animal husbandry & land management practices that our food no longer has the nutritional value that it once did and food borne illness is commonplace in spite of our access to refrigeration & knowlege of sanitation.
Agribusiness does not want us to know where our food really comes from or what truly goes on for fear that we would no longer buy their products.
Fortunately, one can, at least for the time being still buy both meat and plant based food that is not raised in this manner. Unfortunately it is expensive & difficult to to & requires a fair amount of effort on the part of the consumer.
The rewards of doing so are great. A healthier family, a stronger local economy,better stewardship of the environment and more responsible animal husbandry practices that do not involve mistreatment or malnurishment.
Read "The Omnivore's Dilemma" , by Michael Pollen. I guarantee that it will change the way you eat, the way you shop & the way you think about food.
Frizz
 
Anyone ever get a cow from the state fair when they auction them off for clean well fed beef? I have thought of this in the past and have friends that buy one and split it. Dont know the cost .. But at least you know some FFA kid fed it well and its healthy.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11892844#post11892844 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by scorpiocasper
Jack in the Box was out of Jumbo patties. Bummer. :(
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:thumbsup:
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11892776#post11892776 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Phxkeller
Anyone ever get a cow from the state fair when they auction them off for clean well fed beef? I have thought of this in the past and have friends that buy one and split it. Dont know the cost .. But at least you know some FFA kid fed it well and its healthy.
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I have never done this but we have been seriously considering buying from a local rancher out in Wickenberg. Their beef is grass fed & they move the cattle regularly for purposes of good land stewardship. They do not use hormones or antibiotics, all the cattle are raised on the ranch and are also slaughtered on the ranch. The meat is processed next door in a very small operation. We were planning to make a trip out there soon to speak with them & see their operation. To me this is the way things should be done always.
The problem for us is that it requires a great deal of money up front & planning. The smallest amount that you can buy is 1/4 beef so we were going to get some friends together to do a group buy. Also, the cattle are not slaughtered until they are spoken for so it can take 2 or 3 months to get the meat.
The advantages of course are healthier, disease free meat, support for responsible farming methods & contributing to the local economy. The actual beef isn't expensive either. It is only $3.50 a pound.
If you are interested, the name of the place is Date Creek Ranch. They have a very good website with photos of the ranch & they explain their philpsophy & their methods.
Frizz
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11893653#post11893653 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Frizz
I have never done this but we have been seriously considering buying from a local rancher out in Wickenberg. Their beef is grass fed & they move the cattle regularly for purposes of good land stewardship. They do not use hormones or antibiotics, all the cattle are raised on the ranch and are also slaughtered on the ranch. The meat is processed next door in a very small operation. We were planning to make a trip out there soon to speak with them & see their operation. To me this is the way things should be done always.
The problem for us is that it requires a great deal of money up front & planning. The smallest amount that you can buy is 1/4 beef so we were going to get some friends together to do a group buy. Also, the cattle are not slaughtered until they are spoken for so it can take 2 or 3 months to get the meat.
The advantages of course are healthier, disease free meat, support for responsible farming methods & contributing to the local economy. The actual beef isn't expensive either. It is only $3.50 a pound.
If you are interested, the name of the place is Date Creek Ranch. They have a very good website with photos of the ranch & they explain their philpsophy & their methods.
Frizz
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I am interseted. I have even been involved in butchering large animals (elk, ... yummy!). A quarter is probably all I would attempt and I don't have the freeze capacity to handle all of it. It would be an all day affair and I wouldn't gaurantee that all of the cuts would be labeled correctly. We usually ended up with some packages labeled " tasty tenderlion-ish stew chunks". :)
 
I've been buying my pork from The Pork Shop out in Queen Creek.
1/2 Hog(75lbs) for $179
Tasty, tasty cuts of meat.
It's slaughtered and processed about 4 days before I pick it up.
They do all curing and smoking on-site as well.
Yes, it IS worth the drive for this.

For beef I contacted
Date Creek Ranch about two months ago for some initial information and will be going out for a visit in another week or so. After that, if I like what I see, I'll be buying quarter sides from them for years to come I'm sure.

I looked at a few other cattle ranches around the state that sounded and looked great but the only problems I saw with them was receiving the meat. It just wasn't as convenient for me as Date Creek seems to be. Having not tried the beef from here yet, who knows, maybe it's lousy... but somehow, I really doubt it is.

The Pork Shop does not have a website, but here are a few mentions online from Google.

eGullet
New Times
Bacon Unwrapped
 
Once we move we'll probably get a huge freezer to put in the garage and then do something like this.

I want to buy 1/2 a cow and 1/2 a pig, about 20 chickens, and some big slabs o salmon...we'd be set for quite some time, lol.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11892776#post11892776 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Phxkeller
Anyone ever get a cow from the state fair when they auction them off for clean well fed beef? I have thought of this in the past and have friends that buy one and split it. Dont know the cost .. But at least you know some FFA kid fed it well and its healthy.
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My wife's family did this every year until recently. They split the meat up amongst 4-5 of them. It ends up being really very cost effective and the meat is fantastic. You might want to try it sometime.
 
I only eat meat that is kosher. I am kinda upset with the school system for feeding my kids meat that came from this cow slatter house. very very crule. if anyone has noticed I am an animal lover. I do eat meat beef, fish, chicken, and turkey. If these animals are not taken care of our food chain and food values come to and end. and to be quite frank about this issue. I feel the owners and the people who work there should be put through the torment that these wonderful animals were put through. this is very very disturbing. there's a right way and a wrong way to treat people and animals. as far as getting a cow from the fair it would cost me way to much becouse I would want it to be kosher. I would be interested in this if it was cost effective for me.
 
Well I have lived on a Ranch I used to be a butcher and
I have also shown cattle at the State Fair and also The
Maricopa County Fair. A lot of the big corporations that buy
cattle from the state fair end up re selling them. So what they do is Buy the livestock for a tax exempt and then re sell them
back to the auction and anyone can buy them for less than half of what they paid. What we did for a long time is buy the re sells and butcher the cattle ourselves at our High School In Gilbert.
When cattle is under stress and are butchered at that point the meet is nothing like it would taste when you bring the cattle home feed them for a week and take them to the butcher yourself.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11896744#post11896744 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by scorpiocasper
We live a few minutes from the pork shop. Have yet to try them though. They have BBQs for the locals every month too.
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Once you go, you'll never buy sausage from the grocery store again! Been shopping at The Pork Shop for over 4 years now and still love it. Going up North to visit my folks this weekend and they get upset if I don't stop by The Pork Shop on my way up!

The Pork Shop used to slaughter their own hogs, they did this on Wednesdays and you could go and watch if you like, but that was years ago. :(
 
I love it when meat gets recalled. It's always something good! (Either unfit practices or fecal contamination.)

What's sad is that this is what we are feeding our children via the school lunch program.
WE fed the kids "downers" and other unfit animals. Another subsidy horror brought to you via our elected officials.

Feed your kids a fast food burger and it's more than likely a recycled dairy cow, or 6. (They are only good for a few years anyway. The demands of producing 100lbs of milk a day wears them out really fast, considering they are naturally supposed to produce about 10lbs.)

Disgusting.

Sad.

All of this could be avoided if everyone went Vegan.
:D

(The only food recall concern I've had is prebagged spinach........Gross! LOL!!!)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11897590#post11897590 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Veganman


All of this could be avoided if everyone went Vegan.
:D

(The only food recall concern I've had is prebagged spinach........Gross! LOL!!!)
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I was going to mention that :)

Not to mention who knows what kind of pesticides and fertilizers they're using on them...

...

OK EVERYBODY!!!! Enough of this city-living junk! It's about time we all go start up farms and just live off the land! Raise our own cattle and veggies! :D :D :D
 
Actually, It's because they were organic and used manure to fertilize that the outbreak occurred.

Sometimes you just can't win.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11897901#post11897901 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jasonh
I was going to mention that :)

Not to mention who knows what kind of pesticides and fertilizers they're using on them...

...

OK EVERYBODY!!!! Enough of this city-living junk! It's about time we all go start up farms and just live off the land! Raise our own cattle and veggies! :D :D :D
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For those of you that do choose to raise your own cattle...Just so you know what to look for

Signs Your Cow Has Mad-Cow Disease

Your cow insists on wearing a little A-1 sauce behind each ear as cologne.
She refuses to let you milk her, saying "Not on the first date."
Your cow gets a silicon implant for her udder.
Your cow appears on Oprah, claiming to be a horse trapped in a cow’s body.
Your cow insists that all Hindus are sacred.
Your cow insists that evaporated milk comes from dehydrated cows.
She starts giving you Milk of Magnesia.
Your cow starts smoking its grass rather than eating it.
Your cow spends half the day sitting in the Lotus Position chanting "MOO" backwards.
Your cow insists that it can give you chocolate milk if you started feeding it Hershey bars.
Your cow asks you to brand it again but only if you’ll wear something sexy this time.
Your cow becomes a Muslim and asks to be called "LaCream Abdul Milkbar".
Your cow purposely blinds itself with a dart and yells "Bullseye"!
Your cow insists Milk Duds are the result of stupid cows.
Your cow tips other cows over and laughs.
Your cow starts laughing hysterically until milk spurts out its nose.

and in case you (or your friends) are not CSI fans...

Say the word Silk (outloud) four times...

Silk
Silk
Silk
Silk

What do Cows drink????????




Are you sure???
 
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