OT - When does a recession become a depression?

I missed the whole news clip but someone bought a house in ebay for less then 100 dollars. It was a detressed home and they had to pay a few months back taxes but seriously 100 dollars. I am not sure that is going to work as a bailout.
 
You know every year I ask the county if they will kick my neighbors out and let me buy the property for back taxes, they wont do it. Three years unpaid back taxes and they wont go for it. I keep trying though.






note I am not a cruel person I just dont like theifs who break into my house and car.
 
Wow who would have thought Kramer would advise people if you want to withdraw any retirement in the next ten years then now is the time to pull it out. He predicts a dow at 8200.

OUCH!

as we speak dow has dropped 550
It goes recession, depression, and then what Dust?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13492832#post13492832 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ronc98
Wow who would have thought Kramer would advise people if you want to withdraw any retirement in the next ten years then now is the time to pull it out. He predicts a dow at 8200.

OUCH!

as we speak dow has dropped 550
It goes recession, depression, and then what Dust?

I like he follows what everyone else does. 8500 seems to be a consensus with wall street right now. I remember when he was toting banks right before they started plummeting. There will be stocks that shine. Coca-cola and walmart will be two big ones.
 
One silver lining is there are some really good bargains out there to be had. Assuming that is, any of us have any money left when this all plays out.

Another tell tale sign of the way things are heading is Campbell's soup. Its been trading near its 52week high since 10/1. Soup companies usually do well when downturn rears its ugly head.
 
I'm going to stay out of the market for a bit. I have some bank stocks that I picked up a few days ago at there lows and will probably hold for some years but other than that its been pretty rough. I never thought about soup....
 
Yeah soup, liquor, comfort foods all do well during economic down turns...
A stock sale is one way to look @ it, some, or most, of these companies stock will rebound and now might be a good opportunity to pick up a few on sale.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13493872#post13493872 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by porky
Yeah soup, liquor, comfort foods all do well during economic down turns...
A stock sale is one way to look @ it, some, or most, of these companies stock will rebound and now might be a good opportunity to pick up a few on sale.

Yep, yep. But it will really come down to earnings which I think is kicked off next week.
 
So there isn't enough panic in the market to suggest we are near a low.... That's really scary.
 
This could either be the best buying time ever or it is that bad that it is world wide panic is justified. Most Asian markets finished 8-9 percent down from yesterday.

The market hits 7.5k and is stable for a week I am taking all fund I pulled a year ago and buying back in.

Nice they dropped the rates another 0.5 and in effect pushed the dollar even lower. I realize they are trying to stop the panic but their cure is going to be worse then the disease.

I think they should pull the bailout funds from AIG. Nice spa week post bailout just looks crappy. They need to start holding people accountable for this crap.
 
Jim Kramer made the recommendation Monday that anyone who will need their investment funds in the next 5 yrs should get out immediately. Something like that coming from him doesn't help the panic situation. Personally, I am no where near retirement and plan to continue to invest in my 401K. I figure the returns I will get on buying in at the current levels will more than offset the losses I have taken to date. All of which is assuming my wife and remain employed.

Referencing the AIG spa trip, they (AIG) are claiming this was an event for their top 100 producing independent agents and that no executives were present. Either way, it was ill timed. I realize the need to recognize and reward top performers, but this soon after the bailout was definitely poor timing.
 
Yeah I don't care what people say about Kramer he is a bit crazy but, he has a lot of pull and a lot of people watch and listen to him. Some say he was responsible for the sell off that morning, I think that is a bit much but people definatly listen when he talks and he did none of us any favors Monday morning.
Ron- 7.5K is a really low number almost 50% off the high... I'm not saying it wont get there- anything is certainly possible when we watch 700 point days go and disappear in a matter of minutes. Either way I don't think we'll see week long stabilization for quite some time regardless of what the DOW is at. The volatility right now is absolutely crazy.
 
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13507380#post13507380 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ronc98

The market hits 7.5k and is stable for a week I am taking all fund I pulled a year ago and buying back in.

If the market hits this I will be there right with you... In most recessions the worst the market sees is about 2 1/2 months into the dip. So I know what I'm buying myself for christmas.:D
 
Did you really think you would see 9K a three months ago?

I hate the thought that it could hit 7.5K because it is going to destroy the plans for alot of people ready to retire.
 
No, I sure thought 9K was a long ways off if ever 3 months ago. So like I said 7.5K isn't highly unlikely. But when it returns, and it will- it generally comes back in a hurry. The majority of the loses are made up very quickly once you hit bottom. I don't think anyone can say where that bottom is untill we are in the process of the quick recovery. Thats what scares me about setting a number to buy at.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=13507643#post13507643 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ronc98
Did you really think you would see 9K a three months ago?

Energy costs on the rise was a strong indication of a recession brewing as the gov tries to squash this irrationally because it results in inflation. The weakening of the housing market was seen as early back as the spring of 2007. As for seeing 9k, I was hoping the bailout (that I told everyone here at work needed to be done last spring) would keep us above 10k. But procrastination has started a mess that makes 9k look..... high. At some point the Fed will figure out that you can't increase multiple points in a year without serious financial fallout.
 
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