Our 375g reef tank build & fish room

Whenever I mix up a new batch of saltwater, especially if it is a new bucket I've opened, I test for three things: Temperature, Salinity, and pH. If the pH is down, I'll buffer it up. Usually if the pH is down, the alkalinity is as well. By buffering it up, it brings up the alk at the same time.

A few years ago, I had several buckets of the bad batch of Kent Sea Salt (which was measuring 1 dKH out of the bucket). When it was mixed up, the pH of the barrel was 6.0 for some reason. I knew that was crazy low, and scratched my head thinking the CO2 level in my home must be off the charts (since it was winter and the house was sealed up). I buffered it up with baked Baking Soda until it read 8.2 to 8.3, and then proceeded with my water change.

A month later, I did it again and it was low again. I never thought it was a salt problem until all the threads here on RC popped up with a lot of unhappy people declaring the demise of their tanks. They were not testing as they did the water changes, and as their tanks declined, they did more water changes which only exacerbated the problem. As you can imagine, right? One LFS in Arkansas was furious, as he killed his gorgeous 700-800g showtank the same way. When he finally started taking his own advice and measured the newly mixed salt, he discovered that the salt had little to no alkalinity. He called me up and brought me up to speed, asking me to measure my own. Mine had the same problem.

Because I was cautious and used this routine, my tank never skipped a beat. I guess I was lucky, since I didn't know it was actually an alkalinity problem and corrected for it anyway.

What some people do is measure Salinity, Alk, Ca, and Mg when they open a new bucket. If it passes with good numbers, it would be good to mark the bucket accordingly. Some opt to add anything lacking to the newly mixed water in an effort to keep things very stable. Others choose to add the additives to the tank itself.
 
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Marc
Okay I understand testing for dKh, Calcium, Magnesium and PH, (and I will start doing that) but salinity is a factor of how much salt you add to RO water. I do that automatically so I can get my NSW to 1.026.
Thanks
 
When I say to test Salinity, the reason is that the other tests will be affected by varied specific density of the water. Once the water is mixed, I focus on salinity first. Once I've got that, then I can focus on the other numbers because the first one is solid.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15439100#post15439100 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by melev
Whenever I mix up a new batch of saltwater, especially if it is a new bucket I've opened, I test for three things: Temperature, Salinity, and pH. If the pH is down, I'll buffer it up. Usually if the pH is down, the alkalinity is as well. By buffering it up, it brings up the alk at the same time.

A few years ago, I had several buckets of the bad batch of Kent Sea Salt (which was measuring 1 dKH out of the bucket). When it was mixed up, the pH of the barrel was 6.0 for some reason. I knew that was crazy low, and scratched my head thinking the CO2 level in my home must be off the charts (since it was winter and the house was sealed up). I buffered it up with baked Baking Soda until it read 8.2 to 8.3, and then proceeded with my water change.

A month later, I did it again and it was low again. I never thought it was a salt problem until all the threads here on RC popped up with a lot of unhappy people declaring the demise of their tanks. They were not testing as they did the water changes, and as their tanks declined, they did more water changes which only exacerbated the problem. As you can imagine, right? One LFS in Arkansas was furious, as he killed his gorgeous 700-800g showtank the same way. When he finally started taking his own advice and measured the newly mixed salt, he discovered that the salt had little to no alkalinity. He called me up and brought me up to speed, asking me to measure my own. Mine had the same problem.

Because I was cautious and used this routine, my tank never skipped a beat. I guess I was lucky, since I didn't know it was actually an alkalinity problem and corrected for it anyway.

What some people do is measure Salinity, Alk, Ca, and Mg when they open a new bucket. If it passes with good numbers, it would be good to mark the bucket accordingly. Some opt to add anything lacking to the newly mixed water in an effort to keep things very stable. Others choose to add the additives to the tank itself.

I always test for, temp. salinity, PH, ALK & Mag, in the main tank and then try to match the NSW to that, or if I need to adjust something, I'll make the necessary adjustments then.
Each batch of salt can be different. If you make it part of your routine, you NSW will be consistent.
 
Great advice! Excellent information...I admit I don't do this routinely... should do it with every new bucket of salt...

Can I copy this post to my thread?

Thanks.

LL
 
Thanks for the information Marc. I now see that you need to mix a small batch of the new salt to the correct salinity and temperature and then test for ALK, CALC, and MAG. Makes sense now. :)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15444211#post15444211 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Lightsluvr
... should do it with every new bucket of salt...

Yes, every new bucket opened should be verified. You may buy them in bulk, but that doesn't mean they are from the same batch, or even that the batch was mixed with consistency. Some may have more of an element than the one next do it.

Some feel the need to mix the salt in the bucket with a stirrer because as it is trucked across the nation, it can settle out. What is at the top of the bucket may not mix the same as what is at the bottom.

You can roll the unopened bucket around on the ground for a bit, or get a big stick and stir it up a few times. You can pour it back and forth between two empty buckets, but you better wear a face mask because the dust will bother you when inhaled.
 
Sandy
Since changing from Reef Crystals to Oceanic I have no brown residue or undissolved stuff in the bottom of the NSW container.
 
Alan,
That is interesting. How do the numbers compare to RC..
Honestly, I like RC. The brown residue really doesn't bother me knowing what it is.
It is sooo easy to take the tanks apart for a good cleaning every 3 or 4 months. With all those union valves Ed put on the plumbing, we just unscrew this one and that one, open the double doors, a little bleach, hook up the pressure washer and 30 minutes later we are done.
For the most of all our tank seems to be doing fine. I'm not dosing as much as since we switched from IO.
Like I said we have 18 bags to go, That is like a year's worth of salt. So needless to say, we won't be switching any time soon.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15401730#post15401730 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by edandsandy
My niece and I were playing around with a small purple flash light we recieved in our goodie bag when we went to the Southereastern Reef Conference, I had no idea what I was about to see!

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I guess it is some kind of LED or flouresenct light!


Was it a LED light given to you by Boston Aqua Farms?
 
Today I went to our LFS and saw these two beautiful Blue Jaw Triggers, a male and a female. I called Ed and said it was OK to purchase them.
I think the male is adjusting to the tank and the female is doing fine.

Ed is helping the male, he didn't feel so good when we first put him in the tank

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Here he seems to be doing better

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A little while later the female came to over to see how he is doing

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Now she is by his side, and I think he will be fine.
 
I hope so as well. They are beautiful fish - and it's nice to see them since I don't plan on putting any in my reef.
 
Wow Triggers!! You guys are brave. :D You do know that most of the trigger family are considered to be not reef safe (the Cross Hatch is one exception).
 
The male looks like he is going to be OK. He is swimming around the bottom and now is under a cliff looking around, the female is swimming all over the place. She keeps swimming back to the male to see if he is OK. The males breathing has settled down to a normal breath.

Alan,
it is supposed to be reef safe.

Bluejaw Triggerfish
(Xanthichthys auromarginatus)
Probably one of the best Triggerfish for the reef aquarium, the Bluejaw Trigger will not bother corals, If you plan to keep it with shrimp add the shrimp first. It can be kept with a large variety of other fishes, except small reef fishes. One male can be housed with several females. Provide with several hiding places where it can retreat to. As with all triggerfish the Bluejaw Trigger will wedge itself into a rock when it sleeps and lock itself in by raising its dorsal fin. This defense mechanism makes it difficult for predators to attack it while it is resting. The male sports a bright blue jaw and yellow fin margins while the female does not.



I guess time will tell, if they are not role model fins, we will remove them.
 
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