Ozone generator DIY

Not trying to be a naysayer here, but...

How are you planning on dealing with the release of ozone in your home? Do you know what quantity this device will make? Ozone is pretty damned harmful to just about everything. I'm all for DIY, but this project seems a bit dangerous.

Ben
 
Not as harmful as you think :D is oxygen with one more atom, anyway the devise and release or all ozone will be outdoors. My setup has the pumps and sump outside.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10920176#post10920176 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by 0 Agios
Not as harmful as you think :D is oxygen with one more atom, anyway the devise and release or all ozone will be outdoors. My setup has the pumps and sump outside.
Glad to see you being enviormentaly friendly by releasing the excess ozone to the atmosphere outdoors and adding it to the already depleated ozone layer. Can you say global warming:rolleyes:
 
I have two of these and they are just big coronal discharge Ozone generators. There are two plates that have to be replaced every so often that I get for $11 each. I use them in cars or what not that have oder that needs to go.
 
Hey Giovanni, how would you use that on a reef? Would you channel it into a diffuser? Would it clean the tank room air at the same time?
 
These things are very powerful. I once placed it in my sump room and it increased ORPH levels higher than I needed it to although it can be turned down if you like. I just did not want to ruin my alpine living air with all the humidity. Plus using a $600 plus ozone machine for my 70 gallon tank seemed excessive. I paid full price for my first one and my wife found the second one at a yard sale for like $20.

I am thinking one of these plates and a small florescent ballast will make more than enough O3 for you. Use an ORPH probe to see how long to run it each day then you are set.
 
hmmm...I just can't get my brain around the mechanics of it. But I am more than willing to listen and learn! :)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10921510#post10921510 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jnarowe
hmmm...I just can't get my brain around the mechanics of it. But I am more than willing to listen and learn! :)

Me either. I'd just spend the 40 or 50 bucks and get a enaly off ebay.
I think someone mentioned not using carbon. This is not a good idea. Even if the residual o3 is in a fish room the bromine is still in the tank.

Don
 
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10921559#post10921559 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Giovanni
Jonathan,

I think I am being a thread thief. I should let 0 Agios post his DIY here. :D
By all means Giovanny I am still building mine, and I understand the basics of it :D
 
"I'd just spend the 40 or 50 bucks and get a enaly off ebay."

Dons got it here. These things are so cheap now, its not worth it IMO to build one. Plus its got the reostat for dosage control.

0 Agios,
Yes a Jacobs ladder will create some ozone, but regular corona discharge will produce more. be real careful with the flybacks- they can put out a lot of power. All the DIYs I've made are UV or with a neon transformer that is power limited to 200mA or so.

Giovanni,
I tried to use a flourescent lamp ballast once, but the open circuit voltage was only 600V. IME, you need at least 5kV to make ozone. HTH

For Johnathan, et.al.;

O3 can be made by corona discharge (high voltage- dont need an actual arc), or UV in the 185nM peak. So you would be swapping your 253nm lamp to a 185nm lamp. UV produces less O3 per watt, but since its glass, doesnt need the air dryers that CD units do (CD parts corrode)

Basically corona is produced by a high voltage electrode, ground electrode, and a strong dielectic (glass is best, acrylic works OK) between them.

The high potential of the electrode wants to jump to ground, but it cant due to the dielectric. The resulting field is called corona.

The corona cracks some O2 molecules into O1s, then the VERY unstable O1s reattach to some of the O2s, creating O3- also very unstable and the reason O3 has to be created point-of-use.

If you use very low doses, no carbon is needed, as it will react immediately and be consumed. If you smell ozone (you'll know- its a sharp smell) then you need to turn it down or use WET carbon to destruct it. (ozone reacts with dry carbon and forms heat- or so I'm told, but havent seen it personally)

Ozone is good at killing odors (oxidation), but will give you a headache in larger doses. I have run quite a few large ozone machines at water plants, public aquarium, and even a smaller unit on a trash compactor. I got gassed bad by the compactor unit once- really opened up my nose and throat and I coughed for an hour.

I do run a UV ozone unit in my HVAC at home. I dont mind it, but my wife doesnt like the smell. Sometimes I'll run it on a timer when we leave. Smells nice and fresh upon returning home.

Sorry for the random rambling...
Chris
 
Giovanni,
Were you talking about using the flourescent ballast to drive a UV lamp or as a HV source for CD? Sorry, didnt catch that before....
 
I was talking about as an HV source. I guess I would have quickly discovered it would not work. The reason I mentioned it is because I have a few laying around.
 
Very nice info H20ENG, thanks, I know some ACs have a UV lamp installed in the intake and output, is that what that is ? an ozone generator ?, as far as the 50 bucks, yes we can all buy, but we like to experiment :D, myself I am HV certified and used work on live power lines, and transformers 1500 KVA 13.2KV :D
 
They say for noobies when working with high voltage to keep one hand in your pocket, but one hand on your beer seems more logical to me:lol:
You've got me beat O Agios, I've only been to 12kV.

The lamps in HVAC systems are mostly germicidal lamps, just like in our UV sterilizers. Some lamps are being made now with fused glass, so that one section of the lamp peaks in the 253 range, and the other section (different glass lets different wavelengths through) peaks at 185, so you get sterilization and slight ozone generation. The air purifier industry has been slammed by EPA reports on ozone hazards so they are toning down the ozone.

There is also photocatylitic oxidation, which uses UV to react with high grade Titanium dioxide. Supposed to be the next big thing. They will paint buildings with the stuff to help clean the environment. Not sure how it differs from regular titanium dioxide that most paint is made with in the first place...

BTW,
Love that 6-shooter belt!
 
You know I wonder if that will ever happen? I mean, the Israelis invented paint that generates electricity over a decade ago, but have we seen it on the market here?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10924138#post10924138 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by H20ENG
They say for noobies when working with high voltage to keep one hand in your pocket, but one hand on your beer seems more logical to me:lol:

BTW,
Love that 6-shooter belt!
Beer gives you the right state of mind when working on HV, and that belt was specially designed for me by Guchy. lol :D
 
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