ozone help!! ...on sps tank!

[reefkeeper1]

Wow! I had no idea ozone could do that. I just set up a red sea ozone like you and I had a really bad headache last night. I get migranes so I just thought that was what it was. I hope this isn't always how it is.

Matt, the recirculating idea with pictures earlier in this thread is what I've done to minimize ozone leakage. I also have my Enaly ozone generator only working 15 minutes every two hours so that a buildup of excess ozone never occurs. You're welcome to drop by and see my set up. Roger also has been using ozone for awhile, so he may have some tips of his own.

 

[kzoo]

Man did you use some butter it fit that ASM in the sump?

 

[jmaneyapanda]

mammoth- relocating your ozonizer wont help unless you relocate your sump too. Perghaps that is what your doing, and I just dont understand. The problem your having (it sounds like) is that ozone is escaping from your skimmer or reactor to the free air. A marginal amount MAY be coming in the water outlet, but, Im guessing most is just exhaust air from your skimmer. Can you/have you put carbon over all air exhaust from the collection cup? It sounds like this will solve the problem. If not possible, I wouldn't run ozone until you figure aout a way to fix it. Mayb you will decide it is worth it to invest in a quality ozone reactor, but I think we can still figure out a way to retro the skimmer to work.

Do you think the ozone could be escape from the ozonizer or plumbing involved? Maybe double check that too.

I hope we are not all overreacting about the negative effects of ozone. Go into any major public aquarium, and you WILL immediately smell the telltale odor of ozone, so were not talking mustard gas here. It is, though, problematic, especially with long term exposure.

 

[MammothReefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8390261#post8390261 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jmaneyapanda
mammoth- relocating your ozonizer wont help unless you relocate your sump too. Perghaps that is what your doing, and I just dont understand.

No I'm not relocating my sump, I have a remote central sump (210gallon) In the garage then, a "equpiment tank" located in the fish room inside the house. I'm planning on reloctaing the ozone unit out of the house and into the garage so it will go directly into the 200 gallon sump, vs the 50 gallon equipment tank. (photos here) http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=923357

The problem your having (it sounds like) is that ozone is escaping from your skimmer or reactor to the free air. A marginal amount MAY be coming in the water outlet, but, Im guessing most is just exhaust air from your skimmer. Can you/have you put carbon over all air exhaust from the collection cup

Correct I had already tried that, it didn't seem to help

It sounds like this will solve the problem. If not possible, I wouldn't run ozone until you figure aout a way to fix it. Mayb you will decide it is worth it to invest in a quality ozone reactor, but I think we can still figure out a way to retro the skimmer to work.

Oh ya it's off.. no way I was going to tolerate that headache! As far as quality, it's 300$ Redsea Ozone Reactor, that isn't quality?.. http://www.marinedepot.com/md_viewItem.asp?idproduct=RS3653

Do you think the ozone could be escape from the ozonizer or plumbing involved? Maybe double check that too.

Double and triple checked, doesn't appear to be.

I hope we are not all overreacting about the negative effects of ozone. Go into any major public aquarium, and you WILL immediately smell the telltale odor of ozone, so were not talking mustard gas here. It is, though, problematic, especially with long term exposure. [/B]

If it, just smelled in the "fish room" fine.. but It's giving me a headache when i'm in my kitchen and living room, i can't run that 24/7

 

[MammothReefer]

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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8388049#post8388049 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Zoom
I run ozone still running it now and never had any headache.
I look at your set up and i saw only one thing i like to know are you using a air pump and air dryer? if you do take a picture and up load it..

Yes, and Sure I'll try to snap some pictures after I move everything the fish room is reallly small so it's hard to get a photo of anything

 

[MammothReefer]

Re: Re: ozone help!! ...on sps tank!

Re: Re: ozone help!! ...on sps tank!

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8388049#post8388049 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Zoom
I run ozone still running it now and never had any headache.
I look at your set up and i saw only one thing i like to know are you using a air pump and air dryer? if you do take a picture and up load it..

Yes, and Sure I'll try to snap some pictures after I move everything the fish room is reallly small so it's hard to get a photo of anything

 

[Acroholic]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8376322#post8376322 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by drtango
Hmm--wonder if your elevation, and the lower atmospheric pressure, has something to do with how ozone reacts or behaves in your environment?

I'd ask this question over in the chemistry forum

John

I was thinking this exact same thing when I first read your post and saw your location.
I have a carbon chamber built into my PM waste collector that eliminates any residual ozone odor.....

 

[MammothReefer]

hmm never thought of that..

 

[jmaneyapanda]

I cant imagine elevation would have anything to do with the oxidation events of ozone. It is a fairly straightforwrad biochemical process. But I am no scientist, so I could be wrong.

Mammoth- my bad- i didnt know your sump wasnt in the same room as the tank. I would highly doubt the ozone that is effecting you is coming through the aquarium water, so i think thats a good first step. Now, I wasnt talking about the ozonizer- red sea units are great (its what I run). I was talking about a ozone reactor (a compartment where the ozone can react with the water, and get degassed through carbon or similar). You could probably make one, or retro another canister to create one, but I still think there is no better place for ozone than in the skimmer.

Do you smell the ozone in your living room and kitchen? Or do you just get headaches? I hope I'm not prying too much, but it is very bizarre to me that you do not smell the ozone where it would be most concentrated.

As you and other posters mentioned- no need to run it 24/7. Maybe just when your at work or away or something. One more question- in your sump/equipment tank, what is the water circulation like? The more agitated it is, the better protected the show tank (and kitchen and living room) will be.

 

[MammothReefer]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8392097#post8392097 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jmaneyapanda I cant imagine elevation would have anything to do with the oxidation events of ozone. It is a fairly straightforwrad biochemical process. But I am no scientist, so I could be wrong.

Mammoth- my bad- i didnt know your sump wasnt in the same room as the tank. I would highly doubt the ozone that is effecting you is coming through the aquarium water, so i think thats a good first step. Now, I wasnt talking about the ozonizer- red sea units are great (its what I run). I was talking about a ozone reactor (a compartment where the ozone can react with the water, and get degassed through carbon or similar). You could probably make one, or retro another canister to create one, but I still think there is no better place for ozone than in the skimmer.

Ah, ya the coralife reactor is pretty cheap, but.. it's a pretty simple device. I'm not quite sure where it could be leaking from. I've been thinking of running a second skimmer for ozone..but have yet to do that.

Do you smell the ozone in your living room and kitchen? Or do you just get headaches? I hope I'm not prying too much, but it is very bizarre to me that you do not smell the ozone where it would be most concentrated.

Kitchen yes, living room no.

As you and other posters mentioned- no need to run it 24/7. Maybe just when your at work or away or something. One more question- in your sump/equipment tank, what is the water circulation like? The more agitated it is, the better protected the show tank (and kitchen and living room) will be. [/B]

Unfortunetly i don't want to run it inside, if it's not going to work properly I may not be home all day but my 2 dogs are and if it's giving me a headache who knows what it is doing to them. As far as sump it's agitated pretty decent, the 2 tanks retrun to it a pretty high velocity.

 

[MammothReefer]

I got thinking, maybe my AIR pump is to small? What size air pumps are you guys using on yours?

 

[Zoom]

You need to get the the air hose off the top of the T and see if with the pump on you get enough suction. that way you know all the ozone gets in to the skimmer and not in the air.

 

[jmaneyapanda]

mammoth, i dont think thats it. your ozonizer will make X amount of ozone (whatever you dial in). Whether it goes in quickly or slowly, it should only make X amount. So unless you have yiours set to a huge amount, i dont think its a prob. I even think the red sea will not make ozone if air isbnt going through. FWIW, I use a Rena air pump rated for a 40 gallon tank (I dont know the model off hand). So it is a very humble air pump.

 

[spykes]

what do you guys think of running a line out of the ozone reactor and out the window.