Peppermint angel

[euod]

If there is fish hiding under a rug, Copps would know. This guy is that great when it comes to chasing fish.

 

[copps]

If there is fish hiding under a rug, Copps would know. This guy is that great when it comes to chasing fish.

Thank you, but this is not a matter of me not knowing about a fish... there are many I do not know about. This is about the credability of the information provided. For one to continually make outrageous statements you need something to back it up. This may seem like a pointless argument to some, but for many of us we take great pride and passion in these topics.

 

[tcmfish]

thank you, but this is not a matter of me not knowing about a fish... There are many i do not know about. This is about the credability of the information provided. For one to continually make outrageous statements you need something to back it up. This may seem like a pointless argument to some, but for many of us we take great pride and passion in these topics.

+1.

 

[Ostara]

Thank you for taking the time to provide such a wealth of background information on C. boylei, Copps! I'm also a big fan of peppermints (who isn't?) and am pleased to now know the history of them in the hobby.

 

[auem]

i congrats jaa1456 for knowing about america's top secret sole captive peppermint angelfish..

@copps,
doesn't Boyle deep dive anymore...?

 

[bullitr]

Why don't you have a peppermint pair John ?
You have pretty much every nice angels
Yet I can keep a single large angel long term
Maybe I should stick with passer since they are indestructible ! Lol

 

[aandfsoccr04]

You've posted numerous times of this elusive and unsubstantiated peppermint with no proof or explanation and no response to the previous thread that the two known collectors and no one in the industry knew about. I'll add what I responded last time to last time on this... for someone who wants to keep their peppermint secret does he know how much you are talking about it?

"The two known Centropyge boylei in captivity are not known based on people saying "look at my fish". To understand how we KNOW there are only two in captivity you need to understand a bit about where we KNOW Centropyge boylei to exist. Before the recent exploration by Rich Pyle at Moorea, Centropyge boylei was known not just from one island... but from one DROPOFF at Rarotonga, Cook Islands. This location is right off where famed fish collector and original discoverer of the peppermint Chip Boyle lives. Chip and Rich are the only two people to have collected peppermints offered to the trade, and the one collected by Rich that went to Waikiki is the first in over ten years. Chip Boyle's fish collecting outfit in Rarotonga collected them VERY sparsely and tracked all the fish. It's been well known for years the specimen in Japan is the only to have survived... this one was collected small and was put on the cover of Angelfishes of the World now full grown in captivity.

It is impossible to prove the NONexistance of something of course, but this New York specimen you talk about would have to have originated somewhere... if so it would most likely have been the only place they were known in the world... Rarotonga... and not from Chip Boyle's station. Possible? Anything is... Probable? No way... Going to collect these fish there would be a MAJOR operation... there are VERY few diver collectors in the world that could successfully do it at that depth... ask freedive43... he's one of them. Add to that even if you had the gear you'd need a local source of oxygen... and Chip Boyle is the only source at Rarotonga... he supplies the hospital even!

I could go on and on... but it's so technical in every way... the diving is technical... the collection is technical... the decompression is technical... the tanking of it is technical... the transport around the world it just doesn't make sense...

It would be entirely more possible, but still almost entirely improbable, for this to happen with a species like Genicanthus personatus... endemic to Hawaii where there are many fish collectors and it is not unheard of for this normally very deep species to be found shallow, like the one Matt Ross caught at 100 feet collecting on Oahu..."

Copps

good information. Thanks John!

 

[Poomba]

They need to get a pair at the Waikiki Aquarium and have you-know-who raise the fry

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[rachenbrazil]

If there is a peppermint angel in nyc ...se don't want to see names... Just a picture with a NY times edition... If Coops give us the chance to hera more about fish industry history...don't keep trying to be a smart guy with I heard about gossips...
Thanks John for the real facts on the deep water fish collecting details.

 

[copps]

@copps,
doesn't Boyle deep dive anymore...?

No, not deep enough.

Why don't you have a peppermint pair John ?
You have pretty much every nice angels
Yet I can keep a single large angel long term
Maybe I should stick with passer since they are indestructible ! Lol

I do... a spawning harem actually... no pics though... sorry.:fun4:

They need to get a pair at the Waikiki Aquarium and have you-know-who raise the fry

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You aren't the only one thinking this trust me... this little aquarium rocks! The best $9 you could spend... as I always say they don't have Shamu or flipping dolphins, but they have amazing reef tanks and one of the best rare fish collections in the world... read this article Charles Delbeek wrote a few years ago...

http://www.advancedaquarist.com/2010/2006/12/aafeature

Copps

 

[dc]

If there is a peppermint angel in nyc ...se don't want to see names... Just a picture with a NY times edition... If Coops give us the chance to hera more about fish industry history...don't keep trying to be a smart guy with I heard about gossips...
Thanks John for the real facts on the deep water fish collecting details.

x2

If I had this fish I'd be telling everyone.

 

[dc]

Well I had to check it out. It is a cute little thing.

 

[Big E]

Great thread..........thanks for sharing that info Copps.

Awesome video to top it all off from Debi