Phillips is coming for your corals

[oreo57]

They did.

Really?? Old tech???
http://applications.nam.lighting.ph...roduction-module-for-multilayer-applications/

 

[gus6464]

About time..

Haha yeah. Plus if you think about it the groundwork is already done. They already have the robust wifi and software from the HUE line. Would take no work to adapt it to this light. They make the drivers in house as it can be just like the bulb ones just larger scale.

 

[oreo57]

They did.

Really?? Old tech???
http://applications.nam.lighting.ph...roduction-module-for-multilayer-applications/

http://www.lighting.philips.com/main/products/horticulture.html

 

[AZRippster]

don't forget about bml........

bml?

 

[slief]

bml?

BML = Build My LED.

 

[jason2459]

BML = Build My LED.

Yep, them and Reef Bright is also passive. I still run a reef bright strip going on 5 years on my 20 long. I had to change them out on my 180 due to the blues were starting to burn out after 2-3 years. Wasn't happy about that.

 

[AZRippster]

I thought Build My LED pretty much just used off the shelf components to build whatever a customer wanted. Kinda like a custom personal computer builder. Do they actually fabricate their own diodes, lenses, heat sinks, and controllers?

 

[zachts]

I thought Build My LED pretty much just used off the shelf components to build whatever a customer wanted. Kinda like a custom personal computer builder. Do they actually fabricate their own diodes, lenses, heat sinks, and controllers?

I was referring to passively cooled, but yes they designed the heatsink/housing, circuit boards, lenses, and they now make a controller, not sure what driver they use, probably just a re-branded meanwell, but who's to say philips won't do that as well. BML's owners started out doing commercial lighting before they got into the reef and horticulture niche market.

They use predominately Luxeon diodes, so no, they don't make those in house.

 

[AZRippster]

Lenses too! That's impressive. Thanks for the info, very good stuff to know.

 

[shermanator]

They use predominately Luxeon diodes, so no, they don't make those in house.

According to Cara @ BML, they use Phillips (lumiled / luxeon) diodes.

 

[Bpb]

Following.

 

[oseymour]

My guess is they'd go into the horticulture market before reef aquarium lighting though.

edit: I signed up for the email updates but never got the promised field test report.

They did.

That link is not for grow light

Philips Specialty Incandescent and halogen bulbs provide the perfect light for accent and display lighting as well as general lighting in a variety of applications

 

[gus6464]

The report can be found here.

http://images.consumerproducts.phil...69d2e781b&elqCampaignId=&elqaid=12591&elqat=1

That is some pretty thorough testing. Anyone think Ecotech does this kind of testing for the Radion?

The picture with the diode reflection shows a lot of white LEDs which makes sense since they were trying to emulate aquablue special. This means it has to be a custom diode that can be more blue if a person wants it.

 

[Bpb]

Link not working. Being that they are an actual diode company I expect they would use fully customized and newly designed from the ground up diodes that hit some of the wavelength peaks that other common high quality off the shelf diodes miss. Kind of like how orphek does it (or claims to, never owned one just read their info)

 

[gus6464]

Link not working. Being that they are an actual diode company I expect they would use fully customized and newly designed from the ground up diodes that hit some of the wavelength peaks that other common high quality off the shelf diodes miss. Kind of like how orphek does it (or claims to, never owned one just read their info)

Try this one

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bx8e0icMeSlbczlEdUo5U2lqUHM/view?usp=sharing

 

[jedimasterben]

I see royal blue, blue, violet, white (assuming cool white), and the orange diodes are PC amber.

 

[jedimasterben]

Link not working. Being that they are an actual diode company I expect they would use fully customized and newly designed from the ground up diodes that hit some of the wavelength peaks that other common high quality off the shelf diodes miss. Kind of like how orphek does it (or claims to, never owned one just read their info)

Orphek has their diodes 'made' to a specific color temperature and has them packaged two diodes per package, nothing special.

 

[jj5]

This was interesting. I also signed up for the news letter. I'd love to see what impact a large manufacturer would have. Good info.

 

[oreo57]

not sure what driver they use, probably just a re-branded meanwell

Inventronics..at least on some....
I believe, like most manuf, they are "flexible"..

same goes for the diodes..

From the report:

This is comparable to a seawater depth of approximately 10 meters, where all colours are still found, but with
decreased presence of red and orange. This is due to the fact that seawater selectively attenuates sunlight,
with light of longer wavelengths being filtered more effectively (Mass et al. 2010). The CoralCare LED
unit provides such a spectrum with high colour rendering, well–suited for marine life. Next to high
colour rendering, marine aquarists seek a homogeneous light source, which is beneficial to the
aquarium’s inhabitants as well as aesthetically pleasing. A subset of aquarists also seeks a dynamic
shimmer effect, which mimics a sunny day on a coral reef. In this respect, Philips has found an optimum
between homogeneity and natural shimmer by designing special patented optics.

Philips CoralCare unit was matched to the T5
luminaire as closely as possible. This was done by setting channel 1 to 60%, and channel 2 to 100%,
which is perceived as a rather “warm” colour point by marine aquarists.

A possible explanation for the lack of statistically significant growth differences between light sources
is the resemblance of light intensity, colour point, spectrum and light distribution when comparing the
T5 luminaires and CoralCare LED units. However, subtle differences between the two light sources
tested here could result in medium– to long–term growth differences, which will be evaluated in a
follow–up report.

 

[oreo57]

I see royal blue, blue, violet, white (assuming cool white), and the orange diodes are PC amber.

ch1 pegs at 6000K (I'll guess 6500K white, amber and cyan)
2 off the scale purple/blue.. (rb and violet)