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[Tylt33]

just out of curiosity would a yellow clown goby and a yellow watchman goby fight? i dont recall if i read about the gobies fighting amongs each other and may fight because they look similar.

Conspec. gobies will fight, but clowns are generally rock perchers and won't occupy the same area of the tank as a watchman... depending on your tank size.

 

[terebear]

Small first time tank.

Small first time tank.

14 gallon biocube currently with
Live rock
live sand
serpent star
peppermint shrimp
cucumber
10 turbo snails
10 blue legged hermits

Tank has been up and running for about a month and a half and everything is good so far. I'd like to add two clowns and a goby. Don't really want to spend much more than $10 a fish but I want to stay away from damsels and I've always liked clowns, they're part of what made me want a salt tank. Which types would you recommend.

 

[gus5946]

just out of curiosity would a yellow clown goby and a yellow watchman goby fight? i dont recall if i read about the gobies fighting amongs each other and may fight because they look similar.

I don't know about yellow clown, but my YWG doesn't seem to like anyone. He is still young (isn't even yellow yet), but he kinda growls at anyone that gets to close, especially the fire goby pair that swim in the column above his hole. If the fire goby pair get to close he swims out and hits them in the side. They have learned to stay up higher in the tank.

 

[M88A2]

well i have a 29 gal tank and wasnt planning on getting a clown till much later when i get some sps corals to grow out.

 

[Aquarist007]

Why is that, if I may ask? Bad experiences? Would the sixline not be more in the LR than in the water column? So, you would rather mix the flasher wrasses?
Thanks

sorry I missed this post Hermannsae

Sixlines can be bullies--in one tank I have the six line goes out of its way to come out of the reef and bash a pair of flame gobies. In another tank that I maintain the sixline bothers the heck out of a flame angel. In yet another tank the yellow watchman would hide all the time when the sixline got close. In yet another couple of tanks when the carpenter wrasse was added instead of a sixline the flame gobies are fine and the yellow watchman gobies are out all over the place.
Need say as a personal choice I avoid sixlines now in preference to a more active reef

 

[Aquarist007]

How about a flame angel and a brazilian beauty together with a clown pair in a 35 gal?? Maybe a firefish too. There is a banded shrimp in there currently.

brazilian beauty or rock angel is on top of the fish to be avoided list:

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1157901

also two dwarf angels in a small tank should be avoided

 

[Aquarist007]

Hi.
I posted earlier about adding my first fish. I ended up having to give away my Six-Line because of my aggressive Flame Hawkfish. I pretty much decided to stick with him as my only fish after that.

However, next week I will be traveling to a town with a rather nice LFS to buy some coral. If they have them available, are there any fish you think would do ok together with my hawk?

Tank is a 20g cube, and I don’t have a lot of LR for hiding:

blue green chromies, tomato clown, and damsels won't take the agression and give it right back

BTW
there is no reason why you can't load the tank up with live rock and create a reef where you can add gobies and wrasses, dotty back, bartlets etc that move in and out of the reef rock.

 

[Aquarist007]

If your post is missed on here please repost. With the number of very qualified reefers helping on this thread sometimes a post can be missed but hopefully this is far and few.

 

[Korrine]

Just lost my porcupine puffer in 125G FOWLR tank. Thinking about converting it to a reef tank. Current occupants- 5" Niger trigger, 5" Foxface 12" Snowflake moray.

1) pr Cinnamon clowns or Maroon clowns
2) Flame Angel
3) Sailfin tang (trap and move from reef tank)
4) Lawnmower blenny

My biggest concern is the snowflake eel. Any other suggestions?

Don't know if this has been answered or not, but here's my take.

I've been researching these like hell b/c I'm making my 75 an aggressive reef.

Snowflakes are invertebrate eaters. Crustaceans are their specialty. They should leave fish and corals alone. Now let say you add a yellow watchman goby and the eel hasn't been feed for several days. He's feeling a bit hungry and the watchman posts right in front of or near him, then YES he could swallow your goby in one gulp. Not likely, though. Just keep him well fed

 

[Korrine]

Hermits: if you don't provide the right kind (to their liking) of alternate shells, they will kill your snails efficiently to steal their shells. They fight with each other too. I didn't notice them being all that helpful. Most experienced reefers leave out crabs, though a few enjoy hermits because they are clumsy and fun to watch (and they supposedly eat green algae which I, knock on wood, as yet have no experience with). I re-homed all my hermits fairly quickly after I started out. Didn't like the carnage.

Not to mention that hermits can also decimate the micro fauna. Hermits are to degrees opportunistic omnivores... they WILL eat your other livestock if hungry

 

[Korrine]

IMO I would not go with an eel in a mixed reef tank. You will want to add inverts and smaller fish like gobies and the lawnmower blenny which will become targets for an eel also
A pair of convict gobies look like snowy eels and are harmless except they dig alot of holes in the substrate.

Sorry capn, I disagree. I know someone whose green chromis kept disapearing never to find a body and nothing in the sump. He had about a 9" or 10" engineer/convict goby. And they can reach a foot plus in length.

Here's a quote from wetwebmedia.com

Engineer gobies are unusual amongst coral fishes in their total lack of antagonism toward other fishes or invertebrates. They will eat very small fishes, crustaceans and worms, but otherwise leave larger-than-mouth size organisms totally alone.

 

[reefboarder]

Ive read alot about fishes and have a pretty good idea of what im doing but I really want a second tang and I am interested in hearing everyones oppinion on this. Right now I have a 120 display 55 sump so approx 140 total volume accounting for displacement. stock list as follows...

Pair Black Ocellaris
2 Lawnmower blennies
2 blue/green chromis
1 coral beauty
1 powder brown

In the future I intend to get two or three more chromis and a spotted mandarin currently that is my stop line for fish but as I suggested I really really want another tang a few in consideration are

White cheek top choice
powder blue second choice
yellow tang " "
Kole Yellow eye " "
or A Lieutenant " "

These are just ones I like and I dont intend to stock all of them just one out of the list Actually I dont intend on getting any unless it will be happy healthy with the other tank mates I have now Thank you in advance for any and all input criticism welcome also.

 

[Tylt33]

Ive read alot about fishes and have a pretty good idea of what im doing but I really want a second tang and I am interested in hearing everyones oppinion on this. Right now I have a 120 display 55 sump so approx 140 total volume accounting for displacement. stock list as follows...

Pair Black Ocellaris
2 Lawnmower blennies
2 blue/green chromis
1 coral beauty
1 powder brown

In the future I intend to get two or three more chromis and a spotted mandarin currently that is my stop line for fish but as I suggested I really really want another tang a few in consideration are

White cheek top choice
powder blue second choice
yellow tang " "
Kole Yellow eye " "
or A Lieutenant " "

These are just ones I like and I dont intend to stock all of them just one out of the list Actually I dont intend on getting any unless it will be happy healthy with the other tank mates I have now Thank you in advance for any and all input criticism welcome also.

I wouldn't buy one from the same family as the Powder Brown that you already have (Acanthurus). That would rule out your White Cheek. I don't know. It's hard to recommend even adding one. I have one tang in my 120g, a Lavendar Tang which is one of the smallest tangs, and I feel now that my tank is too small for it. I saw an adult one... Tangs just get so big. I think all LFS should stock adult fish for people to look at before they buy smaller versions of them.

 

[Korrine]

Ive read alot about fishes and have a pretty good idea of what im doing but I really want a second tang and I am interested in hearing everyones oppinion on this. Right now I have a 120 display 55 sump so approx 140 total volume accounting for displacement. stock list as follows...

Pair Black Ocellaris
2 Lawnmower blennies
2 blue/green chromis
1 coral beauty
1 powder brown

In the future I intend to get two or three more chromis and a spotted mandarin currently that is my stop line for fish but as I suggested I really really want another tang a few in consideration are

White cheek top choice
powder blue second choice
yellow tang " "
Kole Yellow eye " "
or A Lieutenant " "

These are just ones I like and I dont intend to stock all of them just one out of the list Actually I dont intend on getting any unless it will be happy healthy with the other tank mates I have now Thank you in advance for any and all input criticism welcome also.

I think a Kole would be fine. They are commonly kept in 75g tanks so you're 120 with only 1 other tang should be fine, imo.

 

[reefboarder]

Ive read alot about fishes and have a pretty good idea of what im doing but I really want a second tang and I am interested in hearing everyones oppinion on this. Right now I have a 120 display 55 sump so approx 140 total volume accounting for displacement. stock list as follows...

Pair Black Ocellaris
2 Lawnmower blennies
2 blue/green chromis
1 coral beauty
1 powder brown

In the future I intend to get two or three more chromis and a spotted mandarin currently that is my stop line for fish but as I suggested I really really want another tang a few in consideration are

White cheek top choice
powder blue second choice
yellow tang " "
Kole Yellow eye " "
or A Lieutenant " "

These are just ones I like and I dont intend to stock all of them just one out of the list Actually I dont intend on getting any unless it will be happy healthy with the other tank mates I have now Thank you in advance for any and all input criticism welcome also.

I posted this relatively late in the evening, so I wanted it to be fresh for the morning posters. Thank you for the responses already. Has anyone housed more than one tang "appropriately" with success? I know people do it all the time but some people dont follow fish rules and carelessly place too many or mix the wrong types, which I want to avoid. Maybe the tang police can chime in here. Im not in a big hurry and would like all the advice/oppinions as possible.:fish2::fish1:

 

[Hermannsae]

sorry I missed this post Hermannsae

Sixlines can be bullies--in one tank I have the six line goes out of its way to come out of the reef and bash a pair of flame gobies. In another tank that I maintain the sixline bothers the heck out of a flame angel. In yet another tank the yellow watchman would hide all the time when the sixline got close. In yet another couple of tanks when the carpenter wrasse was added instead of a sixline the flame gobies are fine and the yellow watchman gobies are out all over the place.
Need say as a personal choice I avoid sixlines now in preference to a more active reef

No problem. I think I will just go with some flasher wrasses (maybe P. Capenteri? 1 male, 3 female), instead of the sixline and the Chromis. I assume it is wise to add them last.

Well, I take my time. First I have to finish the fish-room and to set up the tank.
Thanks for the input!!

 

[chrischin29g]

29g aqua c skimmer aqua clear 70 koralia 1 powerhead 20lbs LR

just want to keep softies and after i upgrade my lighting some BTA's

 

[Tylt33]

No problem. I think I will just go with some flasher wrasses (maybe P. Capenteri? 1 male, 3 female), instead of the sixline and the Chromis. I assume it is wise to add them last.

Well, I take my time. First I have to finish the fish-room and to set up the tank.
Thanks for the input!!

Carpenter's Flashers are cool. So are McCosker's. Very similar- I'd see which you can get cheaper

 

[johnd651]

Hey,

I am actually still putting the tank together, and was wondering about this:


29 gallon tank Perfecto - 24in PC lighting (1 10000k, 1 actinic) - hydor koarlia 2 (2) - AC 110 (with Puirgen/Seagel) - 45lbs LR - 2 inch black sand bed

CUC
Blue leg hermit crab (2)
Scarlet hermit crab (2)
cerith snails(4)
nassarius (4)
astrea (4)
turbo (1)
Scarlet shrimp

Coral
Brain coral (especialy open)
candy cane
frogspawn
zoa
ric's

Fish
Orange Stripe Prawn Goby
Firefish, purple
Clownfish (2) (going in last!!!)

 

[Aquarist007]

Sorry capn, I disagree. I know someone whose green chromis kept disapearing never to find a body and nothing in the sump. He had about a 9" or 10" engineer/convict goby. And they can reach a foot plus in length.

Here's a quote from wetwebmedia.com

thank you Korrine--that is a good caution to know about. I have never had experience with them more then five inches however. I can just imagine the distruction they can do to the reef too