Please help!!
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OrionN
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The best way to get the water beter is large water change. As large as you can easily do.
Let's say there is a toxic chem X in the water of your tank, if you do 100% water change, you will get rid of all the chemical X. If you do two 50% water change you only got rid of 75% of chemical X. Both of these regiments used the same amount of new water. You will even got much less if you do ten 10% water change.
Make sure you age the water and warm it up and match salinity before you do water change. I rarely do less than 20% water change and I have total water volum of 450 gallon system. I usually mix 100 gal of new salt water to change.
About the algae on your rock, you must have adequate snails to keep the rock clean. Also if you provide stablility and high Ca and Alkalinity, then coraline algae will grow and displace the other algae. With few exceptions, don't look for specific way to kill certain thing. Provide condition that will foster growth of desirable living things in your tank and this will displace the pest.
Let's say there is a toxic chem X in the water of your tank, if you do 100% water change, you will get rid of all the chemical X. If you do two 50% water change you only got rid of 75% of chemical X. Both of these regiments used the same amount of new water. You will even got much less if you do ten 10% water change.
Make sure you age the water and warm it up and match salinity before you do water change. I rarely do less than 20% water change and I have total water volum of 450 gallon system. I usually mix 100 gal of new salt water to change.
About the algae on your rock, you must have adequate snails to keep the rock clean. Also if you provide stablility and high Ca and Alkalinity, then coraline algae will grow and displace the other algae. With few exceptions, don't look for specific way to kill certain thing. Provide condition that will foster growth of desirable living things in your tank and this will displace the pest.
SwampyBill
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Who's 'ragging on you'? No one wants to see you fail, or have any animals die in your care. Just please do research on the requirements on animals BEFORE purchasing them in the future. It's suggested to let a new tank stabilize & mature at least 6 mos. before adding an anemone; & Haddoni's are definitely not a beginner or 1st time anemone for anyone. Is there a reef club in your area with someone w/ more experience w/ these sensitive creatures that you could sell it to? Then get another later on down the line when your tank has stabilized.
You've still not given us your water parameters in numbers or said exactly how long this tank has been set up. If you'd like prompt help, please give full details on tank; not general 'tanks been up awhile'. That algae on rocks could be caused from too much nutrients in water, not enough CUC, new tank syndrome, too much light, or a number of reasons.
The carpet anemone needs to be in QT & you should start cipro treatment ASAP. There's a great stickie at top of this thread about the treatment. Until then, keep doing water changes daily. Good luck!
You've still not given us your water parameters in numbers or said exactly how long this tank has been set up. If you'd like prompt help, please give full details on tank; not general 'tanks been up awhile'. That algae on rocks could be caused from too much nutrients in water, not enough CUC, new tank syndrome, too much light, or a number of reasons.
The carpet anemone needs to be in QT & you should start cipro treatment ASAP. There's a great stickie at top of this thread about the treatment. Until then, keep doing water changes daily. Good luck!
Thank you everyone for your help. As I mentioned, it was not my idea to purchase this particular Anemone but now its mine and trying to make it work. Unfortunately I do not have anyone in the area to assist so I am essentially on my own, except for you guys - 
You have really given me some great ideas, although I seem to have two schools of thought. One is to QT and treat with cipro, another is to leave alone and do massive water changes. Both seem appropriate. Here are my parameters:
65gal - All-In-One Tank (Red Sea Max250)
Sal - 1.026
PH 8.0 - 8.1
Ammonia 0 (at the moment - LOL)
Nitrite - 0
Nitrate - @10
Temp - 76.4 - 76.8 depending on whether the light is on or not
Tank was initially setup for over two years with another individual and relocated to my house around 6 months ago. Has been cycled and currently use treated well water, however I plan on switching to RO. Just purchased a new system. The light is on twice a day in 4 - 5 hour increments ( I was told to do that to help control algae growth) I did read the sticky on cipro etc.
As for water changes, I was doing 10 - 15 % at a time 3 to four times a day, as someone in another forum suggested massive water changes all at once will disturb my coral. Any thoughts on that?
You have really given me some great ideas, although I seem to have two schools of thought. One is to QT and treat with cipro, another is to leave alone and do massive water changes. Both seem appropriate. Here are my parameters:65gal - All-In-One Tank (Red Sea Max250)
Sal - 1.026
PH 8.0 - 8.1
Ammonia 0 (at the moment - LOL)
Nitrite - 0
Nitrate - @10
Temp - 76.4 - 76.8 depending on whether the light is on or not
Tank was initially setup for over two years with another individual and relocated to my house around 6 months ago. Has been cycled and currently use treated well water, however I plan on switching to RO. Just purchased a new system. The light is on twice a day in 4 - 5 hour increments ( I was told to do that to help control algae growth) I did read the sticky on cipro etc.
As for water changes, I was doing 10 - 15 % at a time 3 to four times a day, as someone in another forum suggested massive water changes all at once will disturb my coral. Any thoughts on that?
taylor t
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Can we see a full tank shot? And a sump shot?
For my tanks, I run my lights on a 12 hour schedule. 8 hours of high light, with a couple before and after actinics. Everyone's different, but I try to give them what they'd get in the ocean. Many people keep them alive with only 8 hours of light. They may not thrive on that much, too many factors. I'm not familiar with the AIO set up you have, so I'm not sure how that may impact your temps. As for water changes, again, if it was mine, I would do 20 gallons at a time, maybe a day or two apart for the first week or so, while that carpet is adjusting (keep in mind, some anemone's need MONTHS to FULLY acclimate). I would use a siphon to remove any unwanted growth, the dark stuff on your rocks is probably cyno, and should come off pretty easy with a water change. IMO, that kind of starts a snow ball effect. Cyno chokes out the rock, smothers good stuff inside the rock, it dies, releasing more crud, on and on it goes.....
The stuff growing on your rocks, does it seem to get thicker, or grow more, when the light's been on a while? Does it look thinner or less in the morning before the lights come on? Altering your lights that way, won't really help NOT growing algae. Limiting the food source WILL help reduce algae ( limiting phosphates, nitrates, feeding sparingly). Well water (I'm on a well too, tons of rust) may be part to blame too. If so, water changes with unfiltered water may be useless in helping.
For my tanks, I run my lights on a 12 hour schedule. 8 hours of high light, with a couple before and after actinics. Everyone's different, but I try to give them what they'd get in the ocean. Many people keep them alive with only 8 hours of light. They may not thrive on that much, too many factors. I'm not familiar with the AIO set up you have, so I'm not sure how that may impact your temps. As for water changes, again, if it was mine, I would do 20 gallons at a time, maybe a day or two apart for the first week or so, while that carpet is adjusting (keep in mind, some anemone's need MONTHS to FULLY acclimate). I would use a siphon to remove any unwanted growth, the dark stuff on your rocks is probably cyno, and should come off pretty easy with a water change. IMO, that kind of starts a snow ball effect. Cyno chokes out the rock, smothers good stuff inside the rock, it dies, releasing more crud, on and on it goes.....
The stuff growing on your rocks, does it seem to get thicker, or grow more, when the light's been on a while? Does it look thinner or less in the morning before the lights come on? Altering your lights that way, won't really help NOT growing algae. Limiting the food source WILL help reduce algae ( limiting phosphates, nitrates, feeding sparingly). Well water (I'm on a well too, tons of rust) may be part to blame too. If so, water changes with unfiltered water may be useless in helping.
OrionN
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I don't think there is two thought on this. If your anemone is infected then you should treat him. If not then keep him in good enviromental condition he will recover.
From what I see, I am not sure that he is infected. He just stressed. If he deflates repeatly, then he is infected and need treatment. If no deflation then he likely not need treatment.
Regarless of him needing treatment or not, you need to get your tank condition up to par if you are to be sucessful in keeping him long term.
From what I see, I am not sure that he is infected. He just stressed. If he deflates repeatly, then he is infected and need treatment. If no deflation then he likely not need treatment.
Regarless of him needing treatment or not, you need to get your tank condition up to par if you are to be sucessful in keeping him long term.
SwampyBill
New member
After looking at pix more closely, I agree w/ Taylor & Minh--nem just looks a bit stressed, & mouth appears more closed than some new specimens I've seen. Keep up w/ water changes, put more of a sandbed around it, & hopefully it'll settle in ok. Good luck!
Hey. Sorry I disappeared. Had trouble logging in to the site. So the carpet seems to be doing well. Survived the first 6 days, so far. although I hate to jinx it - - I have not treated with cipro as I think it will be disastrous to take this out of the tank right now. I have doing religious major water changes and keeping the light on longer, however it has now caused the cyno algae problem to get a bit worse. If its not one thing it is another. I do not believe she has eaten anything major since I got her. Do you suggest I try to feed her some fish or just let her be for a while longer?
I have not treated with cipro as I think it will be disastrous to take this out of the tank right now. I have doing religious major water changes and keeping the light on longer, however it has now caused the cyno algae problem to get a bit worse. If its not one thing it is another. I do not believe she has eaten anything major since I got her. Do you suggest I try to feed her some fish or just let her be for a while longer?
