Pohl's Xtra ?

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stevedola

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has anyone experimented with this product without implementing a Zeo system? wondering if it would help increase my sps and lps growth .

I have the following specs
7.5 alk
470 calc
1325 mag
.03 PO4
1.0250 sg
0 nitrate
 
how do the corals look ?

any algae ?

any brown or green film forming ?

Xtra is Amino acids and other elements. so treat it as AA.

everytank is different, and the numbers from test results do not show anything with regards to if AA can helo or not.
 
everytank is different, and the numbers from test results do not show anything with regards to if AA can helo or not.
I agree.

If your corals look pale and/or you are running a nutrient poor system, it will likely help a little. It is hard to say.
 
no algea. no green film. corals look good but growth is slow in my experience compared to past.

my acans are very retracted and Ive had issue with attempting to keep kryponite candy cane which seem to retract. could be too much light/flow but almost think its low nutrients.
 
here is a pic for reference of coral color
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I do use it, but I run Full Zoevit system, so the nutritions are low.

without it, the corals would look very pale / white in my system.

comparing Xtra, to regular AA, not only it darkens the tissue of corals to their true colors, it also adds this 3d color to it, [flourescent kinda coloring] kinda hard to explain in words.

if you are thinking of trying some sort of amino acid, then for sure Xtra is a great choice to at least try :)

but it will "mostly" help with SPS. if you want something just for your LPS then you should try KZ Amino acid LPS, which is alot more potent source of AA. [could make SPS too dark though]
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your corals look prety good to me :) well done.

so I really can not comment for sure if Xtra [AA dosing] would help or would be excessive.

one thing u can do is to replace Xtra with a coral food you feed the tank, if any. do you ever dose Amino acids ?
 
i dont dose anything besides alk/mag/calc. I feed mysis...maybe 3-4 wk, cyclopeeze once wk, and nori almost everyday.
 
okie dokie, Im going to a club meeting this weekend to make home-made fish food so Ill be sure to add oysterfeast, cyclopeeze, Aminos, tobiko and all the other goodies to the mix. If all I need is more food for better growth I can handle that.
 
No carbon. I dont trust the test kit at all but thats what the color code reads <.01 (no color).

the P04 is off a hanna...so its more reliable.
 
I am using Xtra w/o the zeo system. We have very similar specs, but my calcium is ~ 420 and dKH is ~7 and PO4 is 0(Hanna Checker). I feel it's helped with growth and color. Nothing scientific to back it up, but since I started using Xtra along w/ Coral Vitalizer I have had to double my 2 part dosing so something's using up my dKH.
 
I am using Xtra w/o the zeo system. We have very similar specs, but my calcium is ~ 420 and dKH is ~7 and PO4 is 0(Hanna Checker). I feel it's helped with growth and color. Nothing scientific to back it up, but since I started using Xtra along w/ Coral Vitalizer I have had to double my 2 part dosing so something's using up my dKH.

Could just be a coincidence. used it and not noticed anything
 
Could just be a coincidence. used it and not noticed anything

so what you do is always correct and everyone else is wrong ?

even if your observations go against science ?

I really do not understand your posts :)

maybe you should pay more attention to your reef, or stop using Zeo products if you hate them so much ? :)
 
so what you do is always correct and everyone else is wrong ?

even if your observations go against science ?

I really do not understand your posts :)

maybe you should pay more attention to your reef, or stop using Zeo products if you hate them so much ? :)

Lol oh yeah thats right the science where you dont know what the product is.
The science without any lab to verify any results. You want to say im wrong because you beleive in the product. The product could be anything they are the classic snake oil company
 
Lol oh yeah thats right the science where you dont know what the product is.
The science without any lab to verify any results. You want to say im wrong because you beleive in the product. The product could be anything they are the classic snake oil company

:)

Xtra, as I previously mentioned in this thread, is Amino aids, and trace elements.

no, you will never be told the composition of the trace elements and amount of each, that's KZ's intellectual property. does ANY company out there give you full ingredients and amounts of each ? lol

but just the fact that you CLAIM that you have used it, and claim you didnt notice anything, shows you most probably are just a zeovit hater :) I have never heard of anyone say Xtra, the most potent additive KZ makes does nothing.

you are probably the one of the 2 ppl on reefing community that thinks KZ products are snake oil, yet you use them lol sais alot about you ?
 
:)

Xtra, as I previously mentioned in this thread, is Amino aids, and trace elements.

no, you will never be told the composition of the trace elements and amount of each, that's KZ's intellectual property. does ANY company out there give you full ingredients and amounts of each ? lol

but just the fact that you CLAIM that you have used it, and claim you didnt notice anything, shows you most probably are just a zeovit hater :) I have never heard of anyone say Xtra, the most potent additive KZ makes does nothing.

you are probably the one of the 2 ppl on reefing community that thinks KZ products are snake oil, yet you use them lol sais alot about you ?

Because there was a time when I was DUMB like you. Ive seen tanks without zeovit that looked great I SEEN tanks with zeovit that look terrible with corals dieing. or do you claim zeovit changes the DNA structure of corals to make them more colorfull.
All they did was take pictures of nice corals and market their products and you eat it up.
without any lab results; it is insulting to the hobby
Are you offended because of my common sense
You claim it is the most potent why?
Spur bleaches corals when over used
 
wow, those are some harsh personal comments. I pressed the red triangle so you can learn how to engage in a friendly discussion.


zeovit, doesnt change true colours of corals. it allows us to bring out the natural colours.

I do not know of ANY reef company with lab results. look up intellectual property.

if Zeospure2 bleaches corals when overdosed, and lightens colours of corals when used correctly, then in fact it is doing what it should :)
 
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