Pomacanthus annularis (Blue Ringed Angel) experience/advice ?

[humaguy]

Well I checked out the fish again today, it looks a little ragged around the fins but was eating frozen brine well. I hummed and hawed then noticed the price tag labeled "AC Blue Ring Angel $79.99". Double checked and sure enough, "AC" stood for "aqua cultured". This one was imported by Quality Marine from Bali Aquaculture and subsequently shipped to my LFS. Decision made

Sorry for the lousy pic:

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About 1" long, after a 1 1/2 hour aclimation it went into my med/observation tank along with my pair of pyramid butterflys. Their QT clock gets reset, but wasnt going to put any fish into my 115 gal QT tank until Sept.1 anyway as I have 360 lbs of live rock that I want fallow for 10 weeks.

Should I be concerned with the ragged fins at this point or wait and see if any rot/fungus develops? I usually keep fish in the med tank a minimum 8 weeks before they go in either the DT or my larger QT. They get a week of Prazi as a prophylactic treatment after week 2 and no other meds unless something appears. Is this an OK procedure?

Thanks again to all for the encouragement and advice.

Francis

great score!
that is one of Wen's fish and they are adorable and wonderful...looks like your lil girl was perhaps getting picked on...keep your water crystal clear..I would feed the heck out of her, 7 or more times a day, in a week or 2 after she is comfy dose prazi...then wc and 2 weeks of observation (no meds) then cupramine- I would recommend ramping up the dosage very slow, slower than the recommended on the bottle due to her tiny lil size...yours looks like she is already beginning to change coloration on her belly and these fish have been changing at very small sizes...I got one in Nov, about the same size, she is now just over 2 and changing nicely and in my parent's tank...
good luck with her they are spectacular fish and watching them change is remarkable- keep taking pics!

 

[humaguy]

Here's photos of the little guy in acclimation and in the wild eating some paly skirts. Let us know if you get one and post up some pix!

Beautiful fish Coral_Lagoon! That goes for the queen too

another stunning lil baby!
yours really looks tiny in that bottom pic....
beautiful tank...

 

[coral_lagoon]

beautiful fish!

Thanks brah..

 

[Alberta-newb]

great score!
that is one of Wen's fish and they are adorable and wonderful...looks like your lil girl was perhaps getting picked on...keep your water crystal clear..I would feed the heck out of her, 7 or more times a day, in a week or 2 after she is comfy dose prazi...then wc and 2 weeks of observation (no meds) then cupramine- I would recommend ramping up the dosage very slow, slower than the recommended on the bottle due to her tiny lil size...yours looks like she is already beginning to change coloration on her belly and these fish have been changing at very small sizes...I got one in Nov, about the same size, she is now just over 2 and changing nicely and in my parent's tank...
good luck with her they are spectacular fish and watching them change is remarkable- keep taking pics!

Thanks, she was housed in a tiny 6"x8" cubicle with about half a dozen peppermint shrimp and a blennie so I wasn't surprised by the fin damage.

I will feed often as I'm feeding the pyramids about 10 times a day.... Seems like they prefer lots of small feedings and they're always hungry. Diet I've been using is PE mysis, Pacifica Plankton (not sure if you get that south of the border?, it's fresh frozen off the boat and is comparable in size to mysis), hikari frozen spirulina brine, and occasionally NLS pellets (fish prefer frozen). I was worried about size, but she can already slurp down the mysis whole.

I will follow your recommended med schedule this time, I prefer not to use cupramine in most cases and use tank transfer if ich occurs, but I think it's wise this time as a prophylactic treatment. Thanks for the encouragement!

Pics likely won't follow as I keep the med/observance tank unlit and with a blue back she almost disappears. Pics when she goes in the big QT I promise

Francis

 

[Alberta-newb]

Update: the baby annularis is still in QT. She's starting to fatten up a little. Definitely has a preference for PE mysis and shreds of ON angel diet. Bad thing is she has ich, guessing the low level copper at the LFS keeps it under control but not eradicated? Anyway using cupramine with her as tank transfer is not an option right now. I'm ramping up dosage at half the recommended rate and keeping a close watch. So far so good, spots gone and she still has a good appetite. I'll bring her up to the full .4-.5mg/l if she continues to respond well.

Sadly I lost one of the pyramids after several weeks in QT. it had a lump on its side which I suspected was a parasite. Prazi was administered and after a few days the lump opened up and a red sore developed. Looked like it was healing well then one day no appetite. I was worried about secondary infection so began a course of kanamycin. Perked up for a day and then died suddenly the next :-(. The other pyramid gave me a scare the other day as well, lethargic with no appetite but appears to have perked up today.

I'll keep you all updated on the annularis.... she's so damn cute

Francis

 

[Finsky]

Pomacanthus annularis at five inches has been in the tank for four days.

Started eating freeze dried Mysis shrimp soaked in Vita-Chem for the first two days and then yesterday started grabbing the morsels of Vita-Chem soaked krill left and right as well as the Mysis shrimp.

He is one beautiful adult Pomacanthus annularis.

Got to feed now.

 

[Alberta-newb]

Pomacanthus annularis at five inches has been in the tank for four days.

Started eating freeze dried Mysis shrimp soaked in Vita-Chem for the first two days and then yesterday started grabbing the morsels of Vita-Chem soaked krill left and right as well as the Mysis shrimp.

He is one beautiful adult Pomacanthus annularis.

Got to feed now.

Congratulations! They are such stunning fish. My baby is still growing (about 2.5-3" now) and is starting to change color.

 

[Finsky]

That should be a wonderful experience to watch the change to adult colors

That should be a wonderful experience to watch the change to adult colors

Congratulations! They are such stunning fish. My baby is still growing (about 2.5-3" now) and is starting to change color.

I have always looked at these angels with longing and then I had the chance from the LFS that owed me part of the cost. He had a bit of fungus on the right side of his body although was very feisty and eating well and that is clearing up well. Tonight he really went to town grabbing the Ocean Nutrition Red Seaweed that I cut up with scissors into 1/8" to 3/16" pieces and sprinkle like flake food. I also brought home five lbs. of live mussels from Costco for Mr. Blue King and his friends. He now is mixing well with the other like sized fish swimming around from one end of the tank to the other and hanging around where he pleases! I will post pictures when he is in pristine condition which shouldn't take too much longer to be rid of all remnants of fungus. Just too beautiful of a fish not to photograph in his Sunday Best.

 

[las]

Are they very aggressive?

 

[Alberta-newb]

Are they very aggressive?

My understanding as a mature fish they can become the "boss" of the tank, but not outwardly aggressive. In other words, they don't really look for a fight, but don't put up with BS from other fish that do. This is from research not personal experience. Supposedly much less aggressive than Queens or Emporers.

I can say from experience as juveniles they are quite aggressive and stake out a territory they protect. Mine kept a pyramid butterfly (his only tank mate in a 115) wary all the time. Would flare his fins and occasionally chase even though he was less than half it's size.

 

[Finsky]

Tankmates

Tankmates

My understanding as a mature fish they can become the "boss" of the tank, but not outwardly aggressive. In other words, they don't really look for a fight, but don't put up with BS from other fish that do. This is from research not personal experience. Supposedly much less aggressive than Queens or Emporers.

I can say from experience as juveniles they are quite aggressive and stake out a territory they protect. Mine kept a pyramid butterfly (his only tank mate in a 115) wary all the time. Would flare his fins and occasionally chase even though he was less than half it's size.

I have some triggers, puffers, and tangs as tank mates and Mr. Blue King has staked out the left end for nighttime and already has joined the feeding frenzy in the middle of the tank. He did have a certain "attitude" when I checked him out in the LFS and he stood his ground when the Powder Brown Tang who thinks his job is to vet "all" newcomers gave him a "new fish in the tank welcome". The Powder Brown Tang decided this new fella was tough enough after one day and now does not flash him at all.

I love it when a stocking plan comes together and everybody gets along as the tank is full.

Of course I would remove any bad actors when necessary although my plan is to let the inhabitants grown up together and go from there.