Potter's Angels

falconut

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Are they harder to keep than a Coral Beauty or a Flame Angel? Are they less reef safe than the two above or about the same (50/50)? Does anybody have one in their reef tank?

I did have a Coral Beauty in my reef for a year before he resently passed. He bothered nothing.
 
They have a reputation as being very delicate and hard to get established. The mortality rate is quite high. I wouldn't recommend one. The coral beauty is still your best bet, although you can tell from your own experience that any dwarf angel is a risky proposition. They have a spotty record over the last few years.
 
I was interested in a Potters before I started to research it on RC. I ended up with a Coral Beauty and have had great success. The Potters do look very cool but I don't feel they would be worth the risk, especially when a CB or Flame is much easier to keep (and cheaper).
 
I have read that they are hardy once established. Does this mean once they start eatting or do they mean living in captivity for a few months? Any ideas?
 
"Hardy once established" is true for many species, the problem is getting them established. It is very difficult for the Potters. I haven't heard of too many success stories.
 
In my experience, Potter's are difficult to get to eat, but once you get them eating they do very well. All the ones I have had experience with (mine and two friends that had one) were perfect reef angels. They did not pick on any corals. I lost mine in a move from Alabama to Indiana (temperature got too hot. I had them in the cab of the moving van. The heat coming off the transmission cooked him :mad: ) I would not recommend it for a spotless tank, they need algae to feed from.
 
potters do have a bad reputation, but they can be very hardy fish once established. I have only had my potters for a month but he is doing very well. If you are very interested in one i would suggest keeping him on hold at your LFS for a week or two and make sure he is eating very well and not acting strange. I really think that the hardiness has to do with collection as well, many believe that they are brought up from deep depths of the ocean too fast and this causes them to die shortly after arriving at a fish store.
 
I have had a lot of success with Potters angels including pairs, but I have been keeping pygmy angels for a long time. They are hardy IF established. They are difficult to establish unless you are lucky enough to be able to observe one for several weeks at the LFS. You are almost never able to do so since someone always buys them without understanding their needs or problems. They are, however, suseptable to disease, parasites and/or stress more so than most fish. If you feel like your system is not very stable, you will have problems getting them established and keeping them established.

If you have other agressive fish in your system prior to introduction of the Potters, you will have problems.

Almost every single potters angel I have ever kept has nipped at sps coral polyps one time or another. They have never caused visible damage. This could be due to the number of corals in the system.
 
I have a potters. Mine has been fairly reefsafe. I would agree that they don't always come in in good shape.
 
I have seen a few potters angel and they seem to be doing well. They are harder to find than Flame or Coral beauty, but once its eating well and got used to the tank, its a hardy fish!
 
i love my potters. he eats everything. i havent placed any sps into my tank i'm just praying that he's reef safe. i'd hate to get rid of him.
 
any recommendations for acclimation or getting them initially established, I am trying to feed mine mysis/brine cyclopeeze....LFS recommended bringing down my specific gravity.
 
Sounds like your lfs sold you a fish that doesn't eat and is now grasping at straws. How high is your specific gravity?
 
1.024...I just got him tonight, he was eating at the LFS. He actually appears to be doing great in the tank so far...just wanted any extra advice from the pros. In retrospect I think they were just saying that I should take my time acclimating because they run their SG so low, which I did take their advice.

If there are any food supplements that would help the potter's angel please advise.

I think he learned to stay away from my Royal Grammas rock, I had heard about them "roaring" at other fish but he never did it like that, looked mean as hell....the gramma has been a model citizen up until this point.
 
dvmsn said:
I have a potters. Mine has been fairly reefsafe. I would agree that they don't always come in in good shape.

Hi, When you say "fairly reef-safe" what do you mean?

I was considering one for my new FO tank that is plumbed into my reef, but after reading that they do not do well in "spotless" tanks, I'm rethinking that decision.

My reeftank already has a genicanthus bellus. She's been a model citizen. But with the Potters being a Centropyge sp., I'm a little wary of placing it in the reef. My reef is a mix of softies, LPS, SPS, and clams.
 
I kept one over 25 years ago well before reef tanks came to the US . Quite hardy and ate from the get go. Thats not always the case however.

I think its wise to prepare for a difficult time and have some unusual foods ready.

Really neat fish but all things considered I think a really nice Coral Beauty is much prettier.
 
By "fairly reefsafe" I mean mine picks at a porites and occasionally picks at other sps but doesn't seem to cause any real damage. For some reason he really loves that porites and keeps its polyps totally retracted. The acros don't seem to really mind the occasional pick. No problems with zoos, lps or clams whatsoever.
 
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