Newsmyrna80
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Yeah , my Flame Angel is one poopin fish:lmao: Great info, Thanks!
Prazipro not killing flukes
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Yeah , my Flame Angel is one poopin fish:lmao: Great info, Thanks!
Newsmyrna80
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Ok, so Prazipro is not working. I am 2 days into the triple dosage and I saw something on the wrasse. I did a dip on him and flukes.
Please! Does anyone have another route? The wrasse is throwing off mucous. I have battling this for over a month
Thank you for any help!
Please! Does anyone have another route? The wrasse is throwing off mucous. I have battling this for over a month
Thank you for any help!
I know from my f/w days that you can use formalin dips to battle gill flukes in discus. Might be worth a shot, as you are now in uncharted waters.
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I know from my f/w days that you can use formalin dips to battle gill flukes in discus. Might be worth a shot, as you are now in uncharted waters.
I was just researching out how to do that. Also is there a particular brand to use. I have Quick Cure, formalin and Malachite Green, but some have said not to use it.
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Any med with 37% formaldehyde (listed as the active ingredient) should do the trick. I know Formalin-MS (look here) does. Not sure about Quick Cure (although it's still better than nothing in a pinch).
I would dip my discus for 45 mins in a 2-3 gal glass container. Aerate heavily (cannot stress this enough).
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How often should I dip them? Should I do something like a tank transfer method?
That's probably a good idea; since you are only treating the fish and not the tank they are in. I would do two dips, 5 days apart (same as Prazi). After each dip, put the fish in a new QT with freshly mixed s/w to avoid reinfection.
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I think that is a good idea! Wonder how long/minimum time the dip should be? Formalin doesn't kill eggs, does it?
Probably doesn't kill the eggs. As for how long to leave in Formalin dip; I would maybe check to see how long folks are dipping their clowns in formalin for Brook. I would guess around 45 mins.
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I will do that! So the plan is to do a formalin dip, put into new tank. Wait 5 days, dip again and put into another tank (tank transfer method). Sounds like a plan
I will say that after the freshwater dip the wrasse is much better. His color is good and the color anomaly on his left side is gone. He's swimming around looking for food. I ordered a microscope to see what exactly I'm dealing with. Maybe that'll she'd some light on why the Prazipro is not working. Thanks Humblefish
Good luck to you and your fish! Maybe give the wrasse another f/w dip a few days after he goes into the 2nd tank to ensure all flukes are gone.
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Thank you! I think I will give him another dip.
By the way, I have a piece of liverock in the QT for filtration. Do you think it's possible, if these are egg laying flukes, the eggs are in the liverock crevices and the Prazipro can't get to it. I did tell the Hikari lab tech that there was live rock in the tank and he said to just shake it out:hmm5:
I doubt the LR had anything to do with it. People treat their entire DTs (full of LR) w/Prazi successfully.
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Yep! You're right! I forgot about that!
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Update: Flame Angel has been hiding since yesterday and not eating. He follows the food but doesn't open his mouth. His color is starting to fade but no scratching. Today was day 5 (water change and redose Prazipro).
While I'm waiting on the formalin to come in I did a 5 min freshwater dip on him and I did not see anything come off. I put him in brand new QT tank with new water. He's swimming around a little bit. But I've seen him either shaking or having a seizure. Also he's hanging out at the top of the water. Since the Prazipro is not working could this be anything other than flukes?
While I'm waiting on the formalin to come in I did a 5 min freshwater dip on him and I did not see anything come off. I put him in brand new QT tank with new water. He's swimming around a little bit. But I've seen him either shaking or having a seizure. Also he's hanging out at the top of the water. Since the Prazipro is not working could this be anything other than flukes?
Has he ever been treated for Ich?
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No. I've had him a QT since I brought him home in March. No white spots. I sterilized the first tank he was in. He's just hanging out at the top of the tank. I think I'm going to formalin bathe him and put him into his old clean tank.
I talked to the head aquarist at the local marine science center and he said they use hypo to get rid of flukes. Thoughts?
I talked to the head aquarist at the local marine science center and he said they use hypo to get rid of flukes. Thoughts?
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Never heard of hypo being used to eradicate Flukes. I did read in another thread that some claim CP can be used. I think while Crypto and Oodinium have been pretty thoroughly studied; treatment for all these other diseases is mostly anecdotal. Praziquantel was developed in the mid 70s to treat flatworms in mammals and someone figured, "Hey, this should work on fish too." Through trial & error it seemed to work in the vast majority of cases, so it became the standard for treating fish Flukes.
When you say you've "seen him either shaking or having a seizure" do you mean twitching his head? Which would indicate something in his gills is bothering him... Ich can live in the gills and never show itself under the skin. Hypo is considered a "proven method" (although I'm not a fan) for treating Ich, so it might just resolve the symptoms for you.
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I have never heard of hypo for flukes either ..
I have however used it many times for the eradication of ich..
The key is to monitor the water level (i mark with a line) in the morning and night ,,so roughly every 12 hours,,and i usually go to 10 ppt or about 1.007-1.008..
I have however used it many times for the eradication of ich..
The key is to monitor the water level (i mark with a line) in the morning and night ,,so roughly every 12 hours,,and i usually go to 10 ppt or about 1.007-1.008..
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I just read a study that was done in 2006 called Aquaculture and it stated that eggs hatching severely diminished at lower salinities. It also stated that Formalin baths done at 400 ppm for 30 minutes killed all adults and less that 1% of eggs survived.
He seems to be shaking is head but his whole body gets into it:hmm4:
Does anyone know what the concentration of Formalin is in Quick Cure? I can't find any info on the internet and no one in town has just Formalin. Thanks
