Prodibio

Well a few days have passed. I see diatoms growing on the glass. I have not dosed anything other than the second 2 vials of the c source from prodibio 3 days ago and 2 caps of ammino's. Everything looks good and happy in the tank. I have noticed my fuge rock is growing cotton algea very quick, I may shut it off from the system and turn the lights off as well and let it cook there in the dark.
There is no bioload in the tank so it would start cooking right away.
Main tank is algea free except a little diatoms on the glass.
Probably because i dosed 2 capfulls of seachems reefplus ammino's.
 
If there's no bioload, then what are you feeding the aa's to? I'd stop adding them until necessary, i.e. you reach lower nutrients, coral lighten up.
 
Just tested po4 and its 0.02. Just to make sure i did another test, and the same results. :)
 
Hey all. I posted a new thread in the Advanced Topics Forum about Prodibio before I realized this thread was going. I am trying to figure out if Prodibio is right for me. I will cut/paste the post here and hopefully get some advice.

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I have been having trouble keeping sps and some lps for over a year now. I have a 220 gallon reef that is mostly softies. The softies do well and thrive while sps seem to whither away slowly over a few weeks.

Tank:
220 gallon Perfecto, 40 gallon sump/refuge. 9 months old
Lights: 14 X 39 watt T5 Aquactinics Constellation
Skimmer: ATI Bubblemaster 200
Salt: Tropic Marin Pro Reef
Geo Kalk Reactor
Flow: 2 Ocean Runner 3500 return pumps, Sequence Hammerhead on 4 returns with flow adjusters (eductors)
Ph: 7.9-8.1 always had a problem with low ph
alk 10, calcium 410, nitrates and phosphates never register anything with Salifert.
Water changes: 15% every 2 weeks
Viamin C dosing for around 7 weeks with great results (softies)
Carbon reactor, Purigen, and Phosphate reactor running
Food: Rods Food every 2-3 days, Formula 1 and 2 a couple times a day in low amounts, mysis and cyclops every couple days
Fish, medium to heavily stocked with tanks and clowns.
I do have a large leather coral that is finding a new home this weekend.


I get a light coat of diatoms every so often on my sandbed and have to scrape my glass every couple days. I do feed heavily and have cut back but I do not have problem algae.

I am begining to think that I have nutrients that interfere with coloring and growth in my hard corals. Cutting back on food and wet skimming doesnt seem to help my cause. I started to do a lot of reading about Zeo, Ultralith, and Prodibio and think that running a Pordibio test for 3 months may be worth my time/money.

Here is a thread where I did get some info on my problem: http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/s...68#post12097368

Along with some better hubandry and less feedings, do you all with experience with Prodibio think that it is a good idea for me?

Thank you in advance.
 
Sorry i cant help jeff, I am no one to give advise on this. Maybe read thru Iwans thread, and look in the sps forum at the zeo thread.

With my findings so far with prodibio i can tell its helping a little with po4, I am nervouse to turn po4 reactor offline. LOL I know with zeo i had no po4 so i know this can work too.
For now i am running it. I am going to stop dosing kalk, and try this out for a couple mos longer and maybe go back to zeo if i am unhappy, But i think prodibio can give me that tiny nudge i need IMO.
I did order pohls CV, Xtra,Ammino's, and sponge power.
I did love zeo's additives so that i can continue anyways.
:)
 
I am hoping that it will help with my nutrients as well. I keep testing 0 for phosphates and nitrates using Salifert test kits. I mean no color at all in the vial. I get a little bit of diatoms on my sandbed and a little bit of red turf algae in my sump right where the water dumps in (high flow area). My sps are dull and/or brown so I am really thinking that this may help get my nutrients below an acceptable level. I have already stepped up a few things including removing all my leather corals and doing a few extra water changes. We will see...
 
Before my hanna meter i used tropic marin test kits which i liked better than sailferts for po4.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12080813#post12080813 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by glassbox-design
Canary,

sounds like it's doing it's job. po4 is leaching out of the rocks and sandbed. you're essentially cooking the LR in your display system.


i would not mess around with it, give it time.
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And this would mean that, for those of us who have 0 nitrates and 0 phosphates but still have dark red cyano and hair algae, eventually the use of prodibio will be able to out compete the dark red cyano and hair algae, correct?
 
In regards to the use of a skimmer (and sorry for beating the dead horse here- this thread took me so long to get through), wouldn't consistent water changes with or without carbon media be a good alternative to a very strong skimmer?
 
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man this Prodibio costs adds up fast. any body have any good suggestions on stretching out usage or a cheaper source of buying something similar...?
 
I have a lot of reading to do on this subject.

But just thinking out loud, I don't get why 20 billion bacteria will live in a little sealed bottle for years but only live in a aquarium for 15 days. At least it would seem that you could culture the bacteria separately in the right condition. for large tanks this stuff is very expensive IMO.
 
The bacteria is preserve in nitrogen.However adding just one kind of bacterai via sugar alone is not recommanded because you will have just one strain.That's the reason behind the link .
 
I think I understand how they live in a bottle, dormant nitrogen... I guess my question is, what is it about the Aquarium that makes the bacteria Die after 15 days?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12222268#post12222268 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by SuperNerd
In regards to the use of a skimmer (and sorry for beating the dead horse here- this thread took me so long to get through), wouldn't consistent water changes with or without carbon media be a good alternative to a very strong skimmer?
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Personally I don't think so. The reason being that even if you do massive weekly water changes, even as high as 50%, a quality skimmer will still pull gunk out of the water. This tells me that even though water changes are great for diluting the 'pollution', they really aren't going to remove it all on their own. The more routes of nutrient export you have the better.

Additionally, (although a little off topic) a quality skimmer provides a good safety net as well. I had a huge anemone (nearly 10 inches across) get pulled into a vortech pump while I was out of town over memorial day weekend this year. It was ground into little pieces and blown everywhere. I think that if I didn't have such a good skimmer this event could have potentially crashed my tank. Instead, my nutrients barely spiked at all, and I came home to a healthy tank and a skimmer cup full of a horrible jelly-like rotting slime. The skimmer pulled the remains of the BTA out of the water column. The same holds true for helping to remove bacterial blooms.
 
I know i'm bringing back an old thread but i'm about to start using probio nano and would like to have some more inpute befor i take the plunge.
Thanks
 
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