Proof that Oceanic Salt is BAD!!!!
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andy51289
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*Sigh* All this bad talk about Oceanic is making me want to switch back to IO or something similiar. I guess thats why I've had some nutrient problems ever since I switched. It's weird because I can't grow chaeto in my fuge, but the algae in the main tank seems to be growing fine! 
gatohoser
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Well arconom that isnt much of a reach at all....Its more of a reach to say that algae survived in a PURE salt environment to contaminate the bucket. A pump from an aquarium about ft away is only slightly more explainable dontcha think?
I really think its a silica thing. I think you guys need to test your tanks and the new salt batches for silica. Silica is what makes brown algae brown and is the limiting factor in its growth. Id imagine there is no nutrients in your tanks (other than what you had before) but there is now some silica fueling the brown slime growth. I dont think there should be any more comments that it IS the salt until some1 puts some effort into their comments by backing them up.
I really think its a silica thing. I think you guys need to test your tanks and the new salt batches for silica. Silica is what makes brown algae brown and is the limiting factor in its growth. Id imagine there is no nutrients in your tanks (other than what you had before) but there is now some silica fueling the brown slime growth. I dont think there should be any more comments that it IS the salt until some1 puts some effort into their comments by backing them up.
andy51289
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bergzy - I think my problem with the chaeto is that I didn't have the correct bulb over the fuge...that, and the fact that my skimmer is right beside the fuge causes the algae not to grow. Now for the main tank, I've been battling Sargassum for about 8 months now. I've been told that is should die off at about the 6 month mark, but has ceased to do so yet.. I also have some Lobophora that is a PITA, but I think it will eventually die off.
arconom
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I do agree with most, that we should test the salt in a fixed environment. But there are alot of variables. Things need to be sterile. Also environment,temperature,light,heat, have to be the same in all cases.
Issues with bad batches should be none existent. In this day in age if I'm charged for a product I want what I paid for. Quality control is very important. Salt companys should not be in business if quality is not in check. This goes for both IO,Oceanic and others as well.
Issues with bad batches should be none existent. In this day in age if I'm charged for a product I want what I paid for. Quality control is very important. Salt companys should not be in business if quality is not in check. This goes for both IO,Oceanic and others as well.
J_Geisinger000
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instant ocean salt is deffinatley one of the best
jay24k
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I sent them an email about my issues with hair algae. Here is what I received. I would recommend emailing them. I'm sending them this thread link. customerservice@oceanicsystems.com
I personally love the salt except the hair algae. Granted it's not bad. Maybe 2 to 3 golfballs worth every 3 weeks but still annoying. I get more corraline then with IO but more hair algae.
Thank you for the e-mail. This is the first e-mail I have received regarding Oceanic salt and algae. Algae blooms are usually caused by light and/or high amounts of phosphates in the water. Oceanic salt does not have phosphates. If your tank is sitting in front or near a window where there is direct sunlight, this can also cause algae bloom. If I can be of further assistance, please let me know.
Thanks,
Ayinde Thomas
Oceanic Systems - Customer Service
214-320-6050 Ex.721
11990 Shiloh Rd.
Dallas, Texas 75228
I personally love the salt except the hair algae. Granted it's not bad. Maybe 2 to 3 golfballs worth every 3 weeks but still annoying. I get more corraline then with IO but more hair algae.
Thank you for the e-mail. This is the first e-mail I have received regarding Oceanic salt and algae. Algae blooms are usually caused by light and/or high amounts of phosphates in the water. Oceanic salt does not have phosphates. If your tank is sitting in front or near a window where there is direct sunlight, this can also cause algae bloom. If I can be of further assistance, please let me know.
Thanks,
Ayinde Thomas
Oceanic Systems - Customer Service
214-320-6050 Ex.721
11990 Shiloh Rd.
Dallas, Texas 75228
jackson6745 said:
Seen both posts, just didn't see any "Proof"
I am not saying that it is impossible to get a bad batch of salt. Just when I see the headline of "proof" I expected to see some data or other proof to back it up. Thats all, it was a pretty bold statement to make without much more then a picture of some crap in a bucket to back it up.
I think it is very interesting all the stories out there regarding this product. I think it's a great idea that hobbiest investigate this on thier own. Hopefully some of them will do some real experiments instead of posting pictures of cruddy buckets so that others will take them seriously.
Just my $0.02
Don_Gnomio
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do u have a pump in the bucket? is the bucket outside? if there is no pump it is because of the intense light and no water movement if it is outside its because of any number of contaminantes that are in the air!
I don't think you need any more bonifide scientific experiments. There are substantial amout of negative feedback on O about algae bloom from different users to make one think twice about using it....ie...if you were going to buy something on EBAY, would you buy from a seller with a 94% + feedback or one with +99% feedback?? The choice is obviously yours but the risk is also higher.
Saltz Creep
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hottuna said:
You should really think before you type and make stupid exclamations. Nutrients are nitrates and phosphates. We don't want these in our tank water or in our salt.
Frick-n-Frags
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jackson6745 said:
No. I've been following this thread closely.
IME, ALWAYS using IO, I have had times during the last 10 years where everything almost went to hell, then it chilled out. I call them mini-crashes. Brown slime algae would grow on everything and I would lose several or a bunch of corals. IMO, it is a maintenance thing , OR a large underdamped oscillation in the chemistry/biology of my system that ran on like a 2 year period.
I didn't think I changed a thing, yet the system's biorhythm went from awesome to 2 steps shy of crashing and then back to awesome. I blame maintenance. Life has been much more stable these past 3-4 years because I am much better at maintenance.
So far, I have seen nothing but anecdotal evidence blaming the salt. I could have blamed IO several times in the past too, but I think it was me being the retard, not the salt.
You have to realize, there are hundreds of chemical and biological interrelations in our tanks, and each individual combination of what we put in, take out and maintain makes each of us have a somewhat unique overall closed system. So how the heck can you, with such surety blame the salt without having had an identical control running right beside the problem child the whole time?
Sorry, I have been into this too long to just dismiss "operator error" as the cause of most bad crap happening in a system.
