QT mandarin?
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MondoBongo
Obligate Feeder Obsessed
immune i feel is an overstatement. less prone to i think would be a better way to state it.
i did not QT my mandy. i just rolled the dice with her. i didn't like doing that, but it was my only real reasonable choice.
they don't tolerate many medications well, so medicating them is usually out of the question.
it would be possible to QT them, but only really if you had a fully cycled and mature QT system, with enough pods for them to stay fed for the duration of the QT period. you could of course supplement with other foods, but their primary food source would need to be the pods.
so, is it possible? yes. given the right setup and circumstances.
with that being said, in most cases it is not really feasible.
i would never outright tell someone not to QT something, but in this case it is a calculated risk for the overall health of the fish.
i did not QT my mandy. i just rolled the dice with her. i didn't like doing that, but it was my only real reasonable choice.
they don't tolerate many medications well, so medicating them is usually out of the question.
it would be possible to QT them, but only really if you had a fully cycled and mature QT system, with enough pods for them to stay fed for the duration of the QT period. you could of course supplement with other foods, but their primary food source would need to be the pods.
so, is it possible? yes. given the right setup and circumstances.
with that being said, in most cases it is not really feasible.
i would never outright tell someone not to QT something, but in this case it is a calculated risk for the overall health of the fish.
mkoop
New member
I agree completely with Mondo. I did not QT either of my mandarins. It is more likely that they will starve in QT than get sick. They have an extra strong slime coat and I have not seen a confirmed case of ich or velvet yet.
I made the choice to not QT, much like Mondo I don't want to be responsible for telling someone to not QT, but do some more research and make an educated decision. Let us know how it goes.
I made the choice to not QT, much like Mondo I don't want to be responsible for telling someone to not QT, but do some more research and make an educated decision. Let us know how it goes.
It's all a function of the risk one is willing to bear. Personally, I don't QT mandarins or leopard wrasses - both go straight into my refugium. Neither fish are particularly susceptible to things like ich, but they can get it.
mkoop
New member
I feel the scenario you describe would be extremely unlikely.
Reef Junky
New member
Can you dip them before introducing to dt?
MondoBongo
Obligate Feeder Obsessed
agreed. plausible, but highly unlikely.
although this does beg the question, how big is the tank you're putting him in, and how long has it been around for?
It's really just a statistics problem. For example, if a Tang has a 80% chance of being ich free, would you skip QT? How about if you were introducing two where the chances of both being ich free falls to 65%? Crazy to skip QT IMO. If a Mandarin has a 1% chance of carrying ich, what would you do? Not as much of a risk.
jarrod13
New member
I just bought a full grown male green Mandy, and I figured like everyone else it will probably be ok and not have any problems going straight into the DT. Well after a day or two of being in my tank he started showing signs of what I assume is ich, it looks different than I've ever seen before which I'm assuming is from their slime coat. None of the other fish are affected which include 4 damsels, an anthias, and a dwarf lionfish. He also hasn't really eaten, I only occasionally see him picking at the rocks. I unfortunately don't think he's going to make it. So my suggestion is QT anyways...
Here's how he looks as of last night
Here's how he looks as of last night
I have kept mandarins many times and mine are always showing up with grains of sand stuck to them, so it could be that. I've also had very little luck getting them to eat prepared foods, but as long as you have a large enough mature tank, picking at the rocks is probably it eating pods.
mkoop
New member
This. Stuck grains of sand are commonly mistaken for ich with these guys. There was a thread a few weeks ago where someone pulled their mandarin from their display and put him in QT only to realize it was sand. Mine even flip some sand over themselves when they sleep and some of it just takes awhile to 'dust off'.
MondoBongo
Obligate Feeder Obsessed
that is very bizarre.
i'm having trouble telling from the pictures, but are they white or do they have a different color to them?
i'm having trouble telling from the pictures, but are they white or do they have a different color to them?
mkoop
New member
Sorry to derail from OP but @ jarrod :
I don't think you can completely rule out a fungus though I am not familiar enough to give advice on them.
My initial thoughts are Lymphocystis (though I have never dealt with this personally - you may have luck asking in the fish disease part of the forum):
"Caused by the virus Lymphocystis, this disease is fairly easily identified by the warts/lumps that spread over the body. The virus enters through lesions, and is passed on from disintegrating old tissue. Oftentimes the affected fish's own immune system will allow the fish to recover from this ailment. However, this may take several months. Treatment should include quarantine."
I don't think you can completely rule out a fungus though I am not familiar enough to give advice on them.
My initial thoughts are Lymphocystis (though I have never dealt with this personally - you may have luck asking in the fish disease part of the forum):
"Caused by the virus Lymphocystis, this disease is fairly easily identified by the warts/lumps that spread over the body. The virus enters through lesions, and is passed on from disintegrating old tissue. Oftentimes the affected fish's own immune system will allow the fish to recover from this ailment. However, this may take several months. Treatment should include quarantine."
MondoBongo
Obligate Feeder Obsessed
LobsterOfJustice
Recovering Detritophobe
Jarrod, that fish does not have ich but there is something wrong with it. I don't know what, I would start a separate thread asking for advice in the disease treatment forum to get more opinions.
