Quarantine 101

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Random thought:

If your floor is cool to the touch, placing a piece of foam under it will help keep temperature stable and heating costs down. You can get sturdy foam in the insulation section of your local big home improvement store.
 
PS - Don't rest a glass tank on foam, unless you have enough foam to fit all the way past the edges. If it's just on the inside of the edge, it will stress the tank and you may get leaks.
 
Amy, do you still use that bathtub? You could be in for the <b>shock</b> of your life. :eek2: ;)
 
What are your thoughts on QTing a Fish, moving it from an established tank to another? No signs of disease from the previous owner. Paramiters are roughly the same, just two diffent tanks and a 15 min drive.
 
I would QT anyway. Just because a fish doesn't show signs of a disease doesn't mean it can't carry it into your tank. For example, most clowns are extremely resistant to ick and may not show outward symptoms, but tangs and most blennies are very susceptible to it.
 
Charlie's fin is healing up well. :)

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This didn't come out as well as I had hoped, but it's still cute.

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Kind of gross, but it does prove a point. This is just two days of waste. Ewww.. Goes to show you that frequent water changes, even with good filtration is worth the time. :)

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Amy:
Good to see Charlie doing so well. Is Lucy getting a little more relaxed around you, or are you staying away?

Any newbies tagging along:
Lucy and Charlie's QT is going very well. While it's true that this looks like a healthy pair of fish to begin with, the precautionary measures Amy took snipped a lot of potential issues in the bud with a minimum of stress to the fish involved.

A LOT less stress than the alternative. Being tossed in a small box with a bunch of other fish after being in bags and other temporary containers on and off for days or weeks, while you may be sick anyway -- has got to be a harrowing experience. A little time in a quiet spot with lots of good food would make ME happy under those circumstances!
 
NicoleC said:
Amy:
Good to see Charlie doing so well. Is Lucy getting a little more relaxed around you, or are you staying away?

She seems to be a little better with me. She is certainly treating Charlie better. I've been hand feeding them their morning meals and I do think that has helped the most. I have also been coming in and out of the room more often. Trying to get her use to a little foot traffic. Odie (my puppy) runs up to the tank and both clowns are completely unaffected by him. That has to be a good sign.

They are also perfectly happy with the new lighting situation. I think in two weeks I'l bring the light down further to give them time to adjust to a high intensity. The tank they are going into is lit with 175w MH.

I did a big water change on their tank this evening. All went well. They just stay in the safety of their bowl. :)
 
It's funny, isn't it? My gobies are the same way -- *I* feed them, but they run from me, even when they know I'm putting food in the tank.

Yet they totally ignore the giant furry black dog... ?!
 
I know, it doesn't make any sense. Odie is so rambunctious and charges the tank, yet both clowns act like nothing is wrong. I know what puppy teeth can do, they should be afraid! :lol:
 
The fish don't know that Angus once knocked over a small fish tank and used one of the goldfish as a chew toy while laying on the sofa... in the other room.

Both were alive when I found them. I quickly ran tap water in their tank and threw them in, dog hair and all.

Amazingly, the goldfish that just lay on the table in a small puddle didn't survive. The one with gaping wounds with dog hair sticking out of him lived for years afterwards and I eventually adopted him out. Who knows, he may still be alive!
 
What meds are you keeping readily available? I am looking into ordering some. I found formalin. What else do you recomend? I am probably getting a new fish this weekend and the QT is almost ready.
 
Some of the items I have handy:
  • Formalin
  • Copper (do get a reliable test kit for this too)
  • Piperzine (I use PraziPro)
  • Methylene Blue
  • Epsom salt
  • Metronidazole

Have handy some garlic (if you have faith in it), selcon, and I am now a fan of the beta glucan that Kelly and Anthony recommend. Everything needed for fresh water dips and to get ready for a hypo treatment (refractometer).

Also have fresh activated carbon and water for a big change ready when needed.
 
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For me, I have:
Formalin
PraziPro (praziquantel)
Pipzine (piperazine citrate)
Maracyn (erythromycin)
Furan-2 (nitrofurazone, furazolidone and methylene blue)

Plus Lugol's iodine and Flatworm Exit for corals.
 
Oh no, definately not. Formalin baths are good for clowns because of brook. (Kind of a dangerous med, but still highly recommended for WC clown).

Otherwise, a dewormer (Pipzine) and 4-6 weeks in hypo will clean up most fish. The PraziPro is for urgent or stubborn parasite removal (fish won't survive long enough for hypo to work or for worms that Pipzine doesn't take out). BUT -- it can kill anthias. That, I know from experience :( So I would approach PraziPro with caution until it gets a little more exposure in the marine fish industry.

Furan-2 or Maracyn or other antibiotics are for bacterial infections, and are the easiest drugs to find since they are in just about every PetSmart and Petco.

Copper for ick - but I personally don't care for it; too finicky and dangerous when hypo will work just as well.

Virus' (lymphocystis) you can't treat except with good conditions, of course; true fungus' are very rare in salt water fish.

Do go back through the thread -- generic prophylactic care has been discussed.
 
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