question hidding Tunze streams

[ronc98]

Ok I finally got my tunze 6100. I knew they were big and ugly when I got these but did not realize how big and ugly. plan was to hide them in the rock however I am thinking I want to set this up like Mantis did his. I am sure there are other local users that have hid them the same way. If anyone would like to share a picture or an explaination that would be great.

The tank is a penisula style tank so these will be going near the overflow end. These will eliminate my closed loop and oceans motion 4 way. Should be alot less power and alot more flow!!!!

Thanks guys

 

[Mantis]

You mean like this.

 

[ronc98]

yes that is it. Thanks i just found your thread on how this works. I am pretty sure I can mod mine similar to yours. I know I should drain my tank for this but I want to keep what i have left a live so I am going to drill the holes with a right angle adapter for my drill while the tank is still full. Plus the wall is 1/2 PVC so it should not be so bad.

My tank is 72x24x30 so I am only going to run two 6100 and then the 6200 I ripped out of my wavebox. In my test tank I can run the 6200 with the wavebox pulse controller without the box. The overflow itself works just like the box the wavebox resides in normally.

I did not notice this though but my rock work is very similar to what you setup. I just wish my tank was 6-12 inches wider. 24 does not give you much room

Thanks again Mantis

 

[seandanekind]

I got the stream rocks for mine... expensive, but very hard to spot the 4 tunze's in my tank.

You could make your own stream rocks with arag-o-crete...

 

[szwab]

shameless plug...
I have a stream rock For sale $50.00

 

[verper]

I'd be interested in the Stream rock if Ron is not. LMK

 

[ronc98]

Thats Swab but I am going to go the same route Mantis did on his. A lot of work but I might as well do this right.

I have a case of beer and lot of whole saws and a 150 gallon rubber maid. Looks like I am going to be busy.

 

[szwab]

drill the holes before the beer

 

[szwab]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8059350#post8059350 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by verper
I'd be interested in the Stream rock if Ron is not. LMK

looks like he doesn't want it

 

[ronc98]

I think I might have broken a record on this. It took a little less then three hours to remove my closed loop, drill three 3.5 inch holes on my modified overflow and install the tunzes.

I removed the 6200 from my wavebox and decided to mount it in the overflow. I was not completely sure this would work and I figured at best I would be a small wave but nothing like the box itself produces. I was completely shocked when I turned it on. I ended up doubling the wave hight in my tank. With the box I was getting about 3/4 inch wave, without the box I am getting double that. 1.5 inch over a 72 inch tank.

I think I might be finally happy with this setup. My two remaining millipora's have that most polyp extension that I have seen in this tank. I am curious to see how things turn around.

 

[Mantis]

Wow, nicely done, we need pics

 

[ronc98]

pics will come a bit later. I have one last thorn I need to fix skimmer wise. I built this huge 12"x36" skimmer and was only feeding it with around 100pgm of water max. I am going to plumb an one of my overflows directly into it so I have the ability to increase the flow through and in hopes to skim a bit better.

 

[TacoKing]

Sounds like a pretty nice setup ron. I want to see some pics too.

One thing on the overflow. I went this route for a little while and had a big problem battling constant flow. I could not keep the skimmer fed using a constant pressure, which ended up in either over flowing or under producing of skimmate. I've talked with a lot of people on this subject and it seems like it takes a real special system to make it work. If it can be done it works wonders.

-Rob

 

[ronc98]

Now that the tank has stablized here are a few pictures of the installed tunzes. I am happy at the preformance so far. I have a ton of flow around 14000gph with everything on. Around 1200 produced with the tunzes and little more then 2000 from the sump return.

In the end panel you will see the two Tunze 6100 sticking through the overflow wall. These actually seal into the wall so water can not flow through the streams You can also back these out to clean them. The stream in the upper right hand corner is the 6200 used in the wavebox. This actualy gets its water from the overflow and then returns the water to the overflow when it is in its off cycle. The two white returns seen at the top of the tank return the water and direct it towards the rock and wall in a effort to prevent detrius from accumulating there.

This is a closeup of the stream sticking through the wall.

This is a side view of the streams and returns.

This is my tuxedo urchin sporting a new rug. He has been wearing this for the last month. I wonder if it will grow into him.

 

[ronc98]

The direct feed skimmer so far is working very well. I do agree Tacoking that the key is providing constant flow. In my system that is tough since I have a wavebox that constantly changes my overflow height therefore that changes the flow through the returns.

I am using two 1.5" drains. I an using one of those as the feed for my skimmer and the other one dumps into my frag tank. The one feeding the skimmer has a ball valve that is choked down to about 3/4 open. This in itself does alot to equalize the flow in the skimmer. Before the ball valve I also have an old 3/4" "T" that was used to feed the skimmer, now it is just left open. By leaving this valve completely open it acts as a pressure release so it seems to get rid of the rest of the flow surges. It is way to early to decide if this is going to work in the long run however so far I am very happy with it. I skim wet and the level in the riser tube has not changed since I first adjusted it. I have produced about 1/4 gallon of skimmate so far.