Questions on breeding A. thiellei & leucokranos

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I am an inexperienced breeder. That is to say that I have raised many species of coral and kept about 2/3 of the species of clowns but have never had spawning clowns as far as I am aware. So, I think I know what I'm doing in general just not so much in this particular modality.

I've had my "pair" together for around a year now and they seem to be getting along quite well. They have been doing some lazy cleaning lately but I'm not sure if this is just normal housekeeping or the beginning of pre-spawning behavior.

They have been residing for about three months in a 24x24x19 tank with 6" soapstone tiles layed in a triangle. This is where they hang out. I'm currently keeping my temp at around 82F with a photoperiod of ~14 hrs. Given my work schedule, this is the only way I can get in 3 feedings per day without an automatic feeder.

I feed a variety of foods:
OSI Flake
Formula I and II flake
Spectra Pellet
Table shrimp
Mysis
Cyclopeeze
Table fish
Nori

So, other than patience, is there anything else that you might look into?

I'm sure the photo question will arise. So, here you go. Both tanks are hooked in tandem to a 100 gallon rubbermaid trough. These pics were taken shortly after addition. So, they were checking things out and not swimming together so much at the time but they are side by side most of the time now.
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As far as the leucs are concerned, they are skittish when I am around as is typical of the species and the female is quite aggressive.

I should also mention that the tiles are layed a little different than what is pictured. There are three tiles that make up three sides of the triangle. The leather and anemone are in the leuc tank now and there is no other LR or BR in their tank.
 
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Walt, I think you're doing more than most and patience is your best friend. My only suggestion (minor at best) would be to ensure that the cave (tile triangle) creates a dark place. In your pictures (Things may be different now..) The cave is dark under the tile but the side up against the glass is not (I. E. they can see out). My idea is to have a place that the fish can reside with their "backs to the wall" so to speak. Thios way they can take comfort in danger only coming at them from the front. This is why I primarily use clay flower pots, only one opening, makes them more secure IMO.

Good Luck --Kurt
 
Yeah the "cave" looks more like this now. I figure it wouldn't hurt to add one of my flowerpots to the tank and see which they decide to spend their time in.
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I sat down and observed the thielleis for a good hour last night (don't often get that luxury) and noted that they were still picking and it wasn't random. They're definately concentrating their efforts on one particular location on their tiles and it's both of them. They're still not aggressively picking like I've seen in some videos. Prespawning clowns I've seen elsewhere look like rabid dogs attacking a wall.
They're not aggressive but they are consistant. They were doing it when I got home from work up until the lights went out and were going at it again this morning.
 
Much less vigorously and usually one will do it then the other will do it a few seconds later but in the same spot.
 
Well sounds like they are doing pre spawning behaviours!Thats good!Does the male do fake passes like hes fertelizing eggs?
 
It's hard to say. I've had spawning damsels before so I have an idea about what to expect but it looks at times like theyre doing a "dry run." It is just not as vigorous as I would expect.
 
I typically only observe vigorous cleaning the day of the spawn. Most of my pairs fool around with cleaning, just not in earnest. The day of a spawn it gets really intense. Both parties seem to be engaged and typically the female will be noticeably gravid. After it happens a couple of times you will key into this behavior and you'll just know what's up. It is just one of those things that you'll need to observe first before you can really hone in on it.

Kurt
 
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