quick question??

[Butchdawg14]

where could i find a good cheap skimmer and a ref for my 12 gallon when i get it.....

internet websites??

scott you got anything??

 

[Butchdawg14]

http://www.drsfostersmith.com/Product/Prod_Display.cfm?pcatid=14676&N=2004+113771


what do you think??

 

[calvin415]

Here ya go...

http://www.sapphireaquatics.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=2

As for refug, don't know of anything other than the CPR refug, but if you need something custom just let me know.

 

[calvin415]

BTW, the review on the fission are terrible, don't waste the money.

 

[Butchdawg14]

oh really ok....thanks....yea im new to this ref and skimmer thing so i was just checking it out

thanks ERIC good to see you back BTW!!!

 

[reefkoi]

I think mini bubblekings are due out in the US soon, you would be little Don with one of those for sure.
It'd be the ballinest 12 ever

 

[calvin415]

Thanks. LMK if I can help ya out. The Sapphire skimmer is getting good reviews and it's built to fit into the NC12. Is your 12 a NC or another brand?

 

[Butchdawg14]

where do i find those chris???

eric- you going to pay for half of that skimmer???? LOL!!

also a refug.....yes that would be a great idea for you to build one for me!!! just a little one!!! can you PM me with the cost and the diminsion you would go with?? this would be for a AP 12

could it be hang on?? yes? no? just thought i would ask..

 

[murfman]

Dude, don't waste your coin on a skimmer. Do weekly water changes. You don't have a huge bio load to need to skim. Save the coin on corals.

 

[Butchdawg14]

alright cool thanks murf???

that was a thought in my mind......still need a refug though right???

i need one or the other right??? i mean i dont NEED.....but it would be nice!!!right??

 

[calvin415]

I don't know the dimensions of the AP 12 so I can't tell you what I'd recommend building nor do I know your setup, but we can get together some time and figure out what could work best for your tank. I think a HOB would be the best idea...

 

[Butchdawg14]

HOB???? sorry.....im a little behind??

 

[calvin415]

Really, if you do water changes, you don't need anything other than Live Rock. If you do them often enough, you really don't even need that. LOL!!!

 

[calvin415]

Sorry, HOB is Hang On Back.

 

[Butchdawg14]

oh alright can you make HOB refug or not??

 

[calvin415]

I think so... I need to see your setup first and see what kind of room you have to work with...

I'd basically be doing a custom clone of this:

http://www.marinedepot.com/md_viewItem.asp?idproduct=CR1725

Of course you'd still need a light..

 

[reefkoi]

I didn't know any reef tank didn't need a skimmer, I have always ran them on all my s/w tanks, at what point do you think they are needed? when you have more than a fish or 2? or is there a gallon amount where it seems appropriate?

Come to think of it Scotts reef doesn't have one I think and his SPS look great, but he has very few fish, and pulls a lot of water out when selling corals.

 

[murfman]

Kevin, if you don't have pod eating fish, the fuge is kinda pointless.

 

[calvin415]

Macro algaes are great for reducing Nitrates which Kevin is struggling with, but I think he needs to ID the source of Nitrates rather then try to find a way to export them. Kevin you mentioned you were going WC every 3-4 days right? How large? If they are significant water changes that often and you still have nitrates of 20-30 you need to start removing/replacing some stuff. Can you describe your filtration system completely? What livestock do you have?

 

[Butchdawg14]

my nitrates are between 20 and 40........i do WC's like every 3 days!!!