RED BUGS!! kill em or live with em?????

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8335558#post8335558 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by pham411
im guessing if i bomb my tank, my manderine is probably going to die of starvation. thats going to suck, i really hope benifits of nuking my tank will out way the negatives.
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I know several people that treated with mandarins and the fish didn't skip a beat. The pod population recovers quicker than you would think. Once again I'll just quote myself here:

You also don't realize there is nothing to fear with Dustins red bug treatment until you perform your first treatment....to be followed by the 2nd and 3rd treaments of course
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Chris
 
I agree with Chris, though I am not treating again, you have nothing to fear with the treatmenst outlined by Dustin. Other then what has been outlined in this thread. My Pod population bounced back everytime and my Mandarin is still with me, had him for a long time now. Though I think he is starting to get a little old.

Not sure if this has been mentioned but I would turn off your phos reactor if you are running one.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8336898#post8336898 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by fishdoc11
I know several people that treated with mandarins and the fish didn't skip a beat. The pod population recovers quicker than you would think. Once again I'll just quote myself here:



Chris
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haha, hey... nothing wrong with quoting yourself..:p
 
oh accordoing to erics site, he says 25mg per 10 gallons.

a 100lb dog interceptor pill is only 23mgs each. so does this mean for an 80 gall total water tank, i need about 25x8=200mg = 8 pills? that seems like overkill.......
did i misread here...
 
1 tab will treat at least 380 like fishdoc said. so you need maybe to use 1/4 a tablet. I don't think a small overdose will hurt anything but don't use 8 pills! It all depends on the size of your tank.
 
It is actual scale weight vs. medical weight terminology of the amount of drug in the pill... 23mg active drug in pill but weigh out 25 actual mg on a scale of the crushed pill powder.
 
I used a whole pill on my 240 system. no more bugs and no side effects unless better color, growth and polyp extension are side effects..
 
When I did my treatments (both times) I did the first treatment with an extra 25% over the reccomended dosage, the next 2 treatments I did at the recomended dosage. Even at those rates my pod life still didn't die off completely and what did came back very quickly, which in a way makes me wonder if I should have treated longer with an even higher dose? If pods can make it through then can't the Bugs. Also I did get them a second time and from the first to the second I put in very few new corals and treated all in coming corals and QT'd them. But I still got them again. On Eric B's web site he does note the Bugs becoming immune to the treatment...
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8338810#post8338810 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by LobsterOfJustice
There are 23 mg of the active ingredient in each pill. Each pill weighs more than 23 mg due to the flavoring, binders, etc.
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icic, thanks... that was easily confusing... geez i wouldve been the only guy posting on RC with bad results from treating my tank....haha thatnks for clearing it up.
 
i dont think you can overdose with interceptor...jmo
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I would agree a friend did one pill at once on his 120, for a one time treatment and it nuked every last bug, but he did do more then the usualy water cahnges.
 
After treating five times with low interseptor all the bug came back. After that did one pill ounce on my 200G total water volume and i saw no more bugs for two years now anything new getting nuked before is going to the tank..
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8329040#post8329040 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by blstravler
Ditto.

FYI this is slowly turing into the new DSB or BB debate so be careful I've had A LOT of people send me nasty PM's and tell me I have no idea what I am doing and that I am a poor reefkeeper because I live with them in my tank. Do what you think is best for your tank, but you can live with them just keep the rest of your tank in line (water quality, etc) and you can be fine; just my opinion and experience.
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I agree it has been the same for me and I know the sharks have been waiting for me to join this one :D



Also the dog has fleas analogy is played out :rolleyes:
 
For what it's worth, I don't think this is anything like the DSB- BB debate. It's two totally different concepts. People going BB are trying to better there aquarium by reducing wastes and hoping to in-turn, grow healthier corals. They have a choice. No one "goes RB" on purpose to better there aquarium. It's not something you choose to do. It's something you either choose to deal with, or not.



How about the Herpes analogy? That one played out yet?
Gotta love it! :spin1:
 
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