Red Dragon SPS Growth

Very true that there are different coloured corals that start out very similar.

I get my corals from 2 main sources.

The first grow them out and have a fantastic SPS system. So, we can work out which are the limited edition corals and which have potential. I have even picked up a couple of corals that I've not seen elsewhere from them.

The other is my LFS. They get regular direct imports. Fiji, Cebu, Tonga, Bali. We have seen so many corals, that we can tell them from their shipping stressed colours. We occasionally get them wrong, but not often.

Palmer's Blue, Blue Green Tenuis, Mystic Monti, Reverse sunset, True Undata, Jedi Mind Trick. Blue tipped baby pink mille, Cali Tort, Oregon Tort, Hoek.... we've seen them several times, from various locations, but we can spot the subtle hues that give them away. Maybe this isn't obvious at frag size, but it is in shipped colonies. They just need a longer time to settle down.

Maybe it's because the market is different, but we have now seen these colonies so many times, that we know which is which and we're not often wrong anymore.

Yes, the nicer corals seem to be more delicate, maybe that's why they are rarer. Tank raised corals are more stable, so last longer etc etc. But, the LE corals are not one offs. I just think the rarer ones are more difficult to keep alive in their wild shipped format and that's why they seem rarer. I'm not saying we see them in every shipment, but we may see them several times per year, depending on the size of shipments.

I always thought the sunset monti was red base, green polyps... Which is it?.

Mo
 
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Nice Red Dragons, I just lost mine to RTN I think I looked at it funny because I do not see why this would have happened.
 
Very true that there are different coloured corals that start out very similar.

I get my corals from 2 main sources.

The first grow them out and have a fantastic SPS system. So, we can work out which are the limited edition corals and which have potential. I have even picked up a couple of corals that I've not seen elsewhere from them.

The other is my LFS. They get regular direct imports. Fiji, Cebu, Tonga, Bali. We have seen so many corals, that we can tell them from their shipping stressed colours. We occasionally get them wrong, but not often.

Palmer's Blue, Blue Green Tenuis, Mystic Monti, Reverse sunset, True Undata, Jedi Mind Trick. Blue tipped baby pink mille, Cali Tort, Oregon Tort, Hoek.... we've seen them several times, from various locations, but we can spot the subtle hues that give them away. Maybe this isn't obvious at frag size, but it is in shipped colonies. They just need a longer time to settle down.

Maybe it's because the market is different, but we have now seen these colonies so many times, that we know which is which and we're not often wrong anymore.

Yes, the nicer corals seem to be more delicate, maybe that's why they are rarer. Tank raised corals are more stable, so last longer etc etc. But, the LE corals are not one offs. I just think the rarer ones are more difficult to keep alive in their wild shipped format and that's why they seem rarer. I'm not saying we see them in every shipment, but we may see them several times per year, depending on the size of shipments.

I always thought the sunset monti was red base, green polyps... Which is it?.

Mo
i have my doubts Moser. People id named corals wrong all the time. Backa few years ago i thought i found a jedi mind trick in a mariculture shipment...it wasnt till i posted the picture here that i got corrected. Eventually i snagged a legit one and the difference to me now is obvious.

Another thing is some of the ones around you that you think dont have lineage may have......i know i have been contacted to ship corals to Europe twice...and not too long ago someone from the UK asked one of the sponsors to ship to them on another forum.

Anyway you should start a new thread and post pictures of the colonies of these corals you feel are the same. My bet is some maybe are but others would be noticeably different. I know here in canada we havent been successful in finding duplicates of many of these corals

Oh and sunset monti is orange base. Also hoekesami is just a species...not a named linage piece either.

And its amazing how any blue tort will turn into a "oregon" blue tort when there is demand.
 
Thanks Darryl,

I know about lineage and species. We don't have lineage in UK, so we more often use real names when we can identify them.

In the UK, if a blue tort looks nice, it's nice. It doesn't matter to us whether it's oregon or not.... clearly it isn't as it didn't originate from the "Oregon" colony, just likely from the same colony in the ocean..... but let's not debate further.

The Jedi mind trick when coloured up is easy to identify.
I'd like to see what you thought was JMT and wasn't ......

Thanks for correcting red to orange...

Thanks
Mo
 
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+1 Is there a point when this thing really starts to take off? I got mine as a 3/4" frag back in April and here it is now.

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Mine took about 10 month to go from a single branch to encrust the plug. Once that was completed it grew one long multi branch and since last august it has taken off and is growing very fast. I have it in the middle of the tank between two mp60's and two mp40's in about 200 par under LED.
 
I have 3 separate pieces of Red Dragon, 2 were purchased from John Coppolino "Copps" and 1 was purchased from a guy out of CA who goes by POOKSTREET all three are growing relatively fast and I have them placed at different levels in the tank. None of them have large bases but are growing up and out. POOKSTRRET called his Pink Dragon and it is a little lighter shade but other than that it has the same structure and growth patterns as COPPS. I will take some pics so you guys can compare, however I have a feeling these all came from the same lineage at one point.
 
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