reef crystals is a scam!!

[JMalone81]

well when you mix up 60 gallons of salt a week, that extra 50 or so gallons really hurts the wallet on the salt budget!

after 3 buckets i had enough. i wont buy reef crystals again because in reality im paying 75 bucks for a bucket that nets me 100 or so gallons. thats pretty expensive stuff!

Hey go to drsfoster its $50 a bucket. I have used rc for a few years and I'm still looking for this scam you are talking about.

 

[luther1200]

You might want to check your salinity. RC is one of, if not the most common salt on the market. They would not have gained that high standard if yourt claims were even remotely true.

 

[luther1200]

well when you mix up 60 gallons of salt a week, that extra 50 or so gallons really hurts the wallet on the salt budget!

after 3 buckets i had enough. i wont buy reef crystals again because in reality im paying 75 bucks for a bucket that nets me 100 or so gallons. thats pretty expensive stuff!

On your fist post it was 50 gallons for 3/4 of a bucket. So how did it change to 100 gallons per bucket. Is that last 1/4 of bucket magical salt? Maybe RC got it from the guy that sold Jack his beans. And why are you paying 75$ for a bucket of RC, its around 45$-50$. If somebody is selling it for that price, you have no one but yourself to blaim for paying that high price.

 

[stevek480]

You can also buy the 200 gallon box for $50.

 

[JMalone81]

On your fist post it was 50 gallons for 3/4 of a bucket. So how did it change to 100 gallons per bucket. Is that last 1/4 of bucket magical salt? Maybe RC got it from the guy that sold Jack his beans. And why are you paying 75$ for a bucket of RC, its around 45$-50$. If somebody is selling it for that price, you have no one but yourself to blaim for paying that high price.

I was thinking the same thing. Lol

 

[graveyardworm]

Canada, exchange rates, additional shipping costs to get it there.

 

[kc350twin]

In my opinion I buy a salt for it's element levels and reliability. Not for how much it makes.

It is not a secret that almost all the salt companies list their Parameters and mixing amounts in the 1.021-1.023 range or whatever Salinity level they want. Yes I think they should have a graph that shows you the expected amounts for different salinity levels.

My 0.02
Kc3

 

[burtonpj48]

I mix in a 5 gallon bucket and always use 3 cups of reef crystals to get 1.026.

That is alot more salt to mix a 5 gallon bucket. I use h20cean about 2 1/8 cup for a little more than a 5 gallon bucket. i use the h20cean bucket to mix my salt, its a little taller than ur average 5 gallon bucket, and its mixed at 1.025. I was considering switching to reef crystal because the lfs that i purchase my salt from is discontinuing h20cean, im glad i read this thread.

 

[luther1200]

Canada, exchange rates, additional shipping costs to get it there.

If thats why it costs what it does, than wouldn't it be a moot point as those things would be true for any salt? And in respect to each other RC would still be less expensive than others.

 

[The_Codfather]

show me a reef that runs on 1.021 water like they suggest.

Sure that's not for the ICK mix?:jester:

 

[lordofthereef]

The OP still hasnt indicated how they are measuring salinity. Also if its being measured with a swing arm hydro or floating hydro temp could be a factor especially this time of year in Canada.

How are you measuring the salinity and what is the temp of the mixing barrell at the time of measurement?

He did mention the water temp was 75 degrees.

 

[graveyardworm]

I was just reviewing the thread and saw that, my bad. Still wondering how he's measuring salinity. I'm also starting to wonder was the bucket sealed? Possibly someone scooped a bit off the top and recovered the bucket?

 

[luther1200]

. I'm also starting to wonder was the bucket sealed? Possibly someone scooped a bit off the top and recovered the bucket?

That would be the one thing that would make any sense.

 

[d0ughb0y]

I mix in a 5 gallon bucket and always use 3 cups of reef crystals to get 1.026.

That is alot more salt to mix a 5 gallon bucket. I use h20cean about 2 1/8 cup for a little more than a 5 gallon bucket. i use the h20cean bucket to mix my salt, its a little taller than ur average 5 gallon bucket, and its mixed at 1.025. I was considering switching to reef crystal because the lfs that i purchase my salt from is discontinuing h20cean, im glad i read this thread.

well we are talking about reef crystals here, and the recommended mix is 1/2 cup per gallon and I do get 1.021 if I put 2.5 cups to mix 5 gallons. I just need to adjust it to 3 cups to get 1.026.

so the plausible explanation is either SG reading is incorrect, or the LFS scooped out some salt for the yield to be 100 gallons instead of 133 gallons at 1.026.

FWIW, I never measured the actual yield of a bucket of RC, but on 3 buckets, I have weighed the new bucket and sure the weight was exactly as labeled. On a bucket of Seachem I bought from LFS, the weight was less than the label so I am assuming that is why the LFS hastily picked that particular bucket for me when I bought one.

 

[dudley moray]

if you think thats bad check out the ingredients of a magnesium supplement for 20$ for a 500 ml can then go to the grocery store and check the ingredients of eppsom salt for 3$ a 5 lb bag Reef crystals is not a scam it does exactly what it says you should try big als they are 10 bucks cheaper btw!

 

[Rybren]

$75 for the bucket is way out of line for RC, even for those of us who are north of the 49th. I paid $70 for the 200 gal box just before Christmas and then $45 for the same sized box at a post-Christmas sale.

FWIW, I generally use just under 3 cups to mix up a 5 gal pail to 35ppt.

The thing I find odd, is that the instructions tell you to mix 1/2 cup per gallon with no indication of what the salinity will be. But they also state how much wieght will produce 1.021. Seems to me that since most people use a volume measurement, that they should tell you what salinity that volume will produce.

 

[mano84]

I think that the scary part in this thread is that you all refer to the salt buckets as a 160 gallon bucket or a 200 gallon box. I've never heard or seen anyone (before reading this thread) referring it to anything other than a 25 kilogram bucket or whatever the amount is.

Don't get me wrong I think that it's great if it says on the bucket about how much saltwater it will produce so that I'll get a general idea of the amount but when I buy it I still buy 25 kilograms of salt (or ~55 pounds if you prefer that).

 

[eyebedam]

I think that the scary part in this thread is that you all refer to the salt buckets as a 160 gallon bucket or a 200 gallon box. I've never heard or seen anyone (before reading this thread) referring it to anything other than a 25 kilogram bucket or whatever the amount is.

Don't get me wrong I think that it's great if it says on the bucket about how much saltwater it will produce so that I'll get a general idea of the amount but when I buy it I still buy 25 kilograms of salt (or ~55 pounds if you prefer that).

Maybe that's because your in Sweden & most of these post are from here in the US

 

[jhawkor]

I would SO quadruple check everything before starting a thread like this.

Agreed. Calling Reef Crystals a scam is quite a claim.

 

[Metal Man 1221]

im sorry i didnt read every ones comments so im sorry if this has been said
but the point here that needs to be understood is that on every salt mix container it gives an apropriate SG, i.e. i use oceanic, because it has higher Mg and Ca but on the back it says (NOTE:recommended specific gravity is 1.021-1.024 for marine fish....) and its basicly the same on every other container, the reason "Reef Cryistals" is called such, is because of the higher amount of supplements, reef crystals has a higher Alk and Ca levels than most salt mixes its for tanks with stony corals that take up a lot of the above supplements.

so im sorry to say but no, reef crystals is not ripping you off, and with all do respect its your fault for not reading the directions well enough