ReefWreak's 29g SPS Biocube Adventure!

@reefwreak. dont be concerned about leds not being able to do sps. here's a guy using only led's http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2451124 and his sps are unreal if not the best i've seen! the issue isn't if the leds can keep sps, but more the user can adapt to the new light. i started my biocube about a month or so after you and i'm using radion and keeping mostly sps. the sps colors are good and corals are growing.
 
I know it's able to, my tank is living proof. I'm pretty happy with my LEDs. I just think that mh and t5 are easier to "get right".

I'm annoyed that I found a surviving green star polyp last night. Guess in a few months I'll be tearing it all down again.

Also annoyed that I've missed like 2 months of growth because of low calcium because I forgot NSW is closer to 440 not 340. Oops.

Always be vigilant.

Now because of another thread here about LEDs and full spectrum, all I can think about is building a kessil like controller for my LEDs even though I have no use for it. Or just playing with my spectrums, or dialing my lighting up.

Anything to get closer to the SPS gods...
 
It's been a while since I've updated. Sorry! I've been swamped at work (and then doing more work at home).

Have a few pieces of good news and bad news to share.

Good news: Frags from last week are looking really nice and reasonably healthy. Got some of my favorites and a few classics. A few copps, once nice ORA piece (my favorite acro), and another rainbow something that I don't think was a "named" piece, but looks nice and is easy to keep. I'll post specifics and pics at some point.

Great news: I SAW CLOWNFISH EGGS LAST NIGHT! I'm not sure if it's because they've moved locations, or what, but their incessant picking at the rocks and then rubbing has finally left eggs on the rocks! They've chosen right in the front behind the gold torch, so I can see the development progress! I'm not sure the torch loves being their host, but it seems okay, and now I get to see the eggs! It's the first time I've ever seen clownfish eggs, so I'm very excited. Now to see if it becomes more regular, and if it does, if maybe I can try raising some. Time for more research on rearing clownfish eggs!

The bad news:
I have been more careful with recent additions to dip, but was told by the SPS person I visited last week that one of the people I originally got my SPS from (all big LE/fancy pieces) may have had AEFW, so now I have to be super vigilant. I'm having a hard time though telling whether I actually have them, or whether I'm looking for any miscolorations/misformations on acros that I'm calling AEFW bites/damage/etc. Nothing as obvious as the pictures we see online. Since most of my acros are encrusted, I'll probably just do nothing for now, particularly since I'm not 100% convinced I have them. When I set up my new tank, I'll turn this tank into a QT and just do a bayer soak of this whole tank (with inverts moved to the new tank).
 
I am going to get the new IM frag racks for this tank once I break it down. Probably stack them on top of some marinepure blocks so I maintain filtration but otherwise it will be broken down so much easier to care for and use as an actual QT/frag tank

If you are not seeing noticeable signs of AEFW then you are probably good.
 
Yea I like the frag rack + marinepure blocks. Very nice way to go. The only thing I might consider adding is a small easily removable plastic container with some aragonite sand in it, particularly if it's a frag tank and not QT. I think there's buffer value that isn't always appreciated in having aragonite in the tank (sand or liverock). Keeps the pH in the reasonable/stable levels, and does slowly leach some calcium and bicarbonate.

I can't want to see your your setup comes together. The only hesitation I would have with the cube as a frag tank (instead of a QT) is that if it's not plumbed in, it's a PITA to have to manage parameters across multiple systems. If/when I do a frag tank (in the sump room of my dreams) I'd do something like a 40B or another shallow wide system plumbed into the main sump system, just so you don't have to manage parameters. QT, while Paletta likes his heavy-UV-and-still-plumbed-in solution, I'm not a fan, and I'd do a separate tank for that, which is what the biocube is perfect for.

Also, pic of the eggs :)
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I will leave it seperate since the tank will be a mix of a qt and frag tank. It will not have treatments in it as those will happen in the 10 gal tank I have but fish can stay in the cube after treatments to finish qt. The racks are a neccessity so I can pull them out to catch the fish... The 6 line however will stay in the cube moving forward. Not sure I want him in the next tank.
 
My clowns never even go near my rockwork. They pretty much hang out at the top of the tank. I have noticed lately(last couple days) their eyeing my torch and keep getting closer to it like they want to host in it. Time will tell I guess as I have no plans on an anemone. Been there, done that, killed them many times, and got the t-shirt 10 years ago.
 
My clowns never even go near my rockwork. They pretty much hang out at the top of the tank. I have noticed lately(last couple days) their eyeing my torch and keep getting closer to it like they want to host in it. Time will tell I guess as I have no plans on an anemone. Been there, done that, killed them many times, and got the t-shirt 10 years ago.

I'd love to do anemone, but while I've never kept one, I've learned valuable lessons from people who have, which all deter me from keeping one:

1) They can decide one day to go for a walk around your tank. And kill everything they touch.

2) Carpet anemones (my favorite) WILL eat all of your fishes eventually.

3) Just because there is an anemone, doesn't mean the clowns will host it. They're just as likely to host a torch, or euphyllia, or something random like a powerhead, or just nothing at all.

It's a complicated relationship. In my recently mentioned "dream sump room" I'd do like what d2mini has with multiple tanks in that room, and have a dedicated seagrass/carpet anemone tank with only clowns and other commensal inverts. No main tank fishes, and nice and calm flow.
 
So some quick updates. Last weekend I was able to pick up #1 of my 2-frag list of "frags I want/need and still have room for even though I don't have any room in my tank". Ended up with a few other beautiful ones as well that I made room for.

1. ORA Pearlberry !!!
2. Tubbs Montipora Stellata
3. Copps Hulk purple millie
4. Rainbow Pocillopora
5. Montipora Spongoides

So tons of awesome stuff, met a legendary SPS keeper, and things are doing well and growing nicely. Still working on upping my calcium levels from the mid 300s because I was a doofus and forgot that ideal is mid to high 400s, not mid 300s. Things are growing already with the increase in calcium. If only I watched/referenced the levels better, I probably would have triple the growth I've had in the past few months. The good thing is that where would that growth have gone? I don't have any more space!

Here are some pics, thanks for reading!

Top down:
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Fun colors of my ORA Hawkins, ponape birdsnest, and other stuff in the background!
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Lets watch the Strawberry Shortcake grow, now that it's not being snuffed out by Green Star Polyps anymore!
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Finally Pearlberry itself on the right, and my Emerald Sky on the left. I lit this up with a flashlight because I'm on the hunt for AEFW. I still couldn't find any evidence on any of my smoother skinned acros even with super-duper macro lens inspection. I checked these, I checked my red dragon, and I checked some other corals, and I'm just not finding the spots that I'm supposed to be seeing if I have AEFW, so maybe I'm lucky that I just haven't gotten them!
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I know it's able to, my tank is living proof. I'm pretty happy with my LEDs. I just think that mh and t5 are easier to "get right".

I'm annoyed that I found a surviving green star polyp last night. Guess in a few months I'll be tearing it all down again.

Also annoyed that I've missed like 2 months of growth because of low calcium because I forgot NSW is closer to 440 not 340. Oops.

Always be vigilant.

Now because of another thread here about LEDs and full spectrum, all I can think about is building a kessil like controller for my LEDs even though I have no use for it. Or just playing with my spectrums, or dialing my lighting up.

Anything to get closer to the SPS gods...

Please tell me more about why you prefer that Calcium value. What is your target value.

I'd love to do anemone, but while I've never kept one, I've learned valuable lessons from people who have, which all deter me from keeping one:

1) They can decide one day to go for a walk around your tank. And kill everything they touch.

2) Carpet anemones (my favorite) WILL eat all of your fishes eventually.

3) Just because there is an anemone, doesn't mean the clowns will host it. They're just as likely to host a torch, or euphyllia, or something random like a powerhead, or just nothing at all.

It's a complicated relationship. In my recently mentioned "dream sump room" I'd do like what d2mini has with multiple tanks in that room, and have a dedicated seagrass/carpet anemone tank with only clowns and other commensal inverts. No main tank fishes, and nice and calm flow.

Loved my anemones, still keep some maxi mini. It got to the point though were I could not sleep at night worrying my Haddoni was going to go for a stroll, wander into my MP, over my corals. One of the best interventions was re-homing the carpet.

You picked up some really nice stuff



Uggg GSP, I cringe every times someone recommends them as a stocking option, that and blue star polyps.

What did you dip the Hawkins in?
 
very nice. You will have to frag like crazy to keep all this stuff int he tank as it grows in.

And I'm really lazy :( We'll see how this works out. I already bought that fake-rock frag holder, but may/probably need a frag rack anyway. I should be trimming back the A. formosa as it's been growing like crazy (as formosas do) and I have just letting it do it's thing, but one day it will be trouble. It grows at 2-3x the pace of any of the other corals.[/QUOTE]

Please tell me more about why you prefer that Calcium value. What is your target value.

My target is 440ish (with ~8 DKH), as I want to be just above NSW levels. I let it get to 330 because I haven't really thought about it in a long time. The good thing is that unlike nitrates getting too high causing algae outbreaks and other issues, low calcium just means low growth, so it's less obviously detrimental. And honestly, if my corals grow slowly and look nice, then more power to me, since I don't have room for them to grow out all that much more :p

Loved my anemones, still keep some maxi mini. It got to the point though were I could not sleep at night worrying my Haddoni was going to go for a stroll, wander into my MP, over my corals. One of the best interventions was re-homing the carpet.

Yep, I've heard that a lot. You're just lucky it didn't eat your fishes first.

You picked up some really nice stuff
Thanks! I'm really lucky to have met some incredible reefers locally and in my time in the hobby, and most are incredibly generous.

Uggg GSP, I cringe every times someone recommends them as a stocking option, that and blue star polyps.

What did you dip the Hawkins in?

I don't mind them as a stocking option for new tanks, they're hardly as problematic as damsels as cycling fish. People just need to understand how they grow, and to use them on rocks that are easily removed from the tank, or on their own on an island in the sand bed.

I never understand how some people are able to keep them under control so well. The best example of natural control I've seen yet though was I had a colony of favia/moon coral/small brain corals that was on one rock upstream of a bunch of pink zoanthids/palys, and the sweeper tentacles that came out at night from the favias would keep back the zoa/palys. These giant 10-12" tentacles would sweep amazingly far across the tank and the zoas were right in the way, so they were never able to climb up my rock work.

I did star the hobby with some xenia though, and while they did grow prolifically, and walk around my tank, I learned to be comfortable with fragging corals from that experience. And they're good for nutrient export as well!

For the hawkins (and almost all of my acros) I've just been doing research on the tank they're coming from, then doing a deep visual inspection, and if I have any hesitation or questions, I usually dip. I didn't dip from the tank that the hawkins came from because he is a respected reefer and has a HUGE tank filled with giant healthy colonies of every LE/named coral you could want, so I didn't really think twice about it. That being said someone else told me that he has a nasty infestation of AEFW, but I don't remember seeing them on his tank, or on any of the half dozen or so frags that I got from him, and I never dipped them.

I've been very vigilant about looking for AEFW and can say almost without a doubt that I haven't seen any or any evidence of them. (I say almost without a doubt because while I've found "inconsistencies" in texture, my wife tells me after her double-check that I'm just looking for issues and there isn't anything there abnormal).

I do now own a bottle of Bayer advanced for dipping THOUGH I KEEP IT AND USE IT OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF NEW YORK BECAUSE IT IS ILLEGAL IN THE CITY AND BOROUGHS OF NEW YORK. So I can dip with that when I add new corals, but only if I suspect something after a deep visual inspection. Now with a macro lens, it functions really well as a microscope for me to really explore new acros and see every nook and crannie under a bright light.
 
Clowns are laying their second clutch of eggs. Thought I'd share a video with you friends

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With raising the calcium and maintaining the alkalinity I'm seeing growth on frags that I thought weren't growing because they just didn't like me. Well apparently it was my fault, and now they're growing nicely. Still working on upping the calcium levels slowly rather than just dosing them back to the right levels instantly, so as not to shock anything. Colors are doing well, and overall I can't complain about anything! Very happy so far. I'm starting to think about what I will write for my year 1 round-up, which the 1 year anniversary of this tank will be in around a month or so.
 
Does the Flame typically hang around with the clowns?

Fantastic video, it's good documentation, and the clowns are beautiful.
 
Thanks for the compliments! The angel does his own thing, but I've noticed that if there is something on the outside of the glass (camera, face, etc) everyone in the tank is drawn to it, so that explains that.

The angel really is busy exploring and nibbling every square inch of the tank. That's why I don't feel bad having him in a 29g tank, he's always exploring, always interested in everything that moves and every nook and crannie.

I was really fortunate to purchase the clowns and flame angel together from someone breaking down a 34g solana in NJ. They've been excellent tankmates, and I've been really lucky that the angel has never shown any interest in picking on SPS or my clams (any more than he does every other square inch of the tank/rockwork). I wish I had more knowledge of whether the clowns were aquacultured or wild, or any of that info, but no such luck. That's okay though, they're still beautiful coloration. Only gripe is that the male attacks my hand any time it goes into the tank. Oh well.
 
I have noticed my clowns are now doing the same type of "dance", but have yet to see any eggs.

Coming up on my one year anniversary also in 4 short months. Can't believe its been nearly a year already! No real super issues to speak of so far. A couple hitches in the road, but no real speed bumps.....YET!
 
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