Regal Angel Primer

Copper is an immunosuppressant. Lymphocystis is brought on by a compromised immune system. To cure it the immune system needs to be strengthened again and copper does just the opposite.
While usually not, Lymphocystis can be deadly if the affected cells are in vital areas.

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Are their any vitamins or supplements you recommend adding to his food. Right now he eats spirulina enriched brine shrimp very aggressively.
 
Picked up my little regal last night, He's probably around an inch and a half. Added him straight to the display, He's out and eating this morning
 
CrayolaViolence said:
That is incredible. What did you feed it? The whole diet thing has been what has worried me. I work from home so regular feedings are not a problem for me, but I'm not sure if there is a suitable commercial grade fish chow that would meet all the needs or if I'd have to shopNchop to do a proper diet. My emperor gets a stead meal of new life spectrum pellets, mysis, seaweed, I've offered big shrimp (diced) he didn't want it) and krill (a hit or miss kinda thing), and clams (again no go). I am thinking of adding sponges to his tank for grazing along with some plants. Over all he's very happy and fat, but I know a regal (should I ever dare) would not be nearly as easy.
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Healthy Regal angel will eat almost everything. Once you get your Regal to eat well, he should be fine. If he is eating and not doing well, you should treat him for parasites, worms...
My oldest Regal have been with me for 4 years. He is fat and healthy. I don't feed my tank anything special other than just variety of flakes and frozen mysis and ocean plankton. I also feed my fish chop up tuna, salmon (or other seafood) whenever we eat these, which is often 2-3 times/week
 
I have a large Regal just arrived yesterday from Live Aquaria, I'm quarantining with one of the XL flame angels Divers Den has had recently. I had a plan of slowly adding cupramine at roughly half the recommended speed, and then holding the dose for about 3 weeks before moving them into the display, fully expecting the regal to take roughly that long to begin eating anyway. I've had success with 2 regals in the past, but had to trade them in after two years. One took two weeks to eat, one nearly a month.

This one was picking leftover mysis off the bottom of the tank minutes after acclimation. After I got home from work it ate everything I threw at it, even some flake and NLS pellets. Devoured a clam. No one more surprised than me.

Should I still treat with cupramine as I normally would, or should I not mess with a good thing and just keep an eye out for problems? I don't want the feeding response to change.

I should add, I did see a little bit of glancing from the Regal and the tail fin appears to have a cloudy spot. Not sure if it's anything or not, and let's just say it wasn't the smoothest acclimation so it might be a little injury from that.
 
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OrionN said:
Healthy Regal angel will eat almost everything. Once you get your Regal to eat well, he should be fine. If he is eating and not doing well, you should treat him for parasites, worms...
My oldest Regal have been with me for 4 years. He is fat and healthy. I don't feed my tank anything special other than just variety of flakes and frozen mysis and ocean plankton. I also feed my fish chop up tuna, salmon (or other seafood) whenever we eat these, which is often 2-3 times/week
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Mine eat flakes, pellets, frozen foods, pick on green hair algae, Caulerpa, Ulva, red algae, go after pods... anything edible.
The only things that they ignore are fish, shrimp, corals and interestingly, the sponges they are supposed to live off in the wild.

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CrayolaViolence said:
That is incredible. What did you feed it? The whole diet thing has been what has worried me. I work from home so regular feedings are not a problem for me, but I'm not sure if there is a suitable commercial grade fish chow that would meet all the needs or if I'd have to shopNchop to do a proper diet. My emperor gets a stead meal of new life spectrum pellets, mysis, seaweed, I've offered big shrimp (diced) he didn't want it) and krill (a hit or miss kinda thing), and clams (again no go). I am thinking of adding sponges to his tank for grazing along with some plants. Over all he's very happy and fat, but I know a regal (should I ever dare) would not be nearly as easy.
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Sorry for the delay in responding. My tank was large (510 gallons) and was fish-only. There were some aggressive fish in with the regal. I fed brine shrimp and whole table shrimp and sometimes frozen squid. I didn't bother to thaw or cut up the large pieces since the larger, more aggressive fish would attack and shred the food. The smaller fish or those with smaller mouths would scramble for the scraps.

I have a very small, juvenile regal now that I have had for about six months. I now feed a mixture of frozen food. These are fortified with spirulina, omega fats, sponge, mysis, krill, etc. This juvi eats all of this but examines each piece to see if it is his favorite. I can't tell which ones he likes. He is a very aggressive eater of NLS pellets. I didn't expect that. He is fat and growing.
 
jmm said:
Sorry for the delay in responding. My tank was large (510 gallons) and was fish-only. There were some aggressive fish in with the regal. I fed brine shrimp and whole table shrimp and sometimes frozen squid. I didn't bother to thaw or cut up the large pieces since the larger, more aggressive fish would attack and shred the food. The smaller fish or those with smaller mouths would scramble for the scraps.

I have a very small, juvenile regal now that I have had for about six months. I now feed a mixture of frozen food. These are fortified with spirulina, omega fats, sponge, mysis, krill, etc. This juvi eats all of this but examines each piece to see if it is his favorite. I can't tell which ones he likes. He is a very aggressive eater of NLS pellets. I didn't expect that. He is fat and growing.
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That's awesome!!! This gives me hope!
 
d-man said:
How have your guys been with zoas?
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It's mixed, some ignore them, some nip at various degrees and some just munch them away.
From my experience it is also size related: smaller ones are less likely to go after zoas than large ones.
Sick regals are more likely to nip on zoas as well, though in that case they usually go for the slime rather than the actual tissue. I think that might be a form of self medication.

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I have have a pair of Regals in my 125 gallon LPS & SPS reef without any issues of them picking on Zoas. Unfortunately they did like picking on my favorite leather coral Nepthea. I did just lose a torch that but never saw them picking on it. I would see tips of it on the tank bottom. It may have been my Clowns. They killed my BTA. Not sure who to blame.
 
Sonicblast12 said:
I have a large Regal just arrived yesterday from Live Aquaria, I'm quarantining with one of the XL flame angels Divers Den has had recently. I had a plan of slowly adding cupramine at roughly half the recommended speed, and then holding the dose for about 3 weeks before moving them into the display, fully expecting the regal to take roughly that long to begin eating anyway. I've had success with 2 regals in the past, but had to trade them in after two years. One took two weeks to eat, one nearly a month.

This one was picking leftover mysis off the bottom of the tank minutes after acclimation. After I got home from work it ate everything I threw at it, even some flake and NLS pellets. Devoured a clam. No one more surprised than me.

Should I still treat with cupramine as I normally would, or should I not mess with a good thing and just keep an eye out for problems? I don't want the feeding response to change.

I should add, I did see a little bit of glancing from the Regal and the tail fin appears to have a cloudy spot. Not sure if it's anything or not, and let's just say it wasn't the smoothest acclimation so it might be a little injury from that.
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Answering my own question here just for the purposes of the primer.

Watched the regal for two days, hearty appetite. Decided to slowly treat with cupramine because I didn't like the look of that spot, and it appeared to be spreading to other fins. Tolerated the copper well, but the fins were getting worse after a few days. I was also concerned about putting the large flame through copper, but it's also doing well. Good size regal, great appetite, but it became obvious it came in with flukes. I like to wait until I'm done with cupramine to treat for flukes, but the regal was getting more uncomfortable by the day.

Treated with prazi, the regal shook and shimmied for an hour or so and appears to be much more comfortable today, and the fins already look better. More normal angel behavior, hunting and pecking.
 
An update on my office Regal, I held off food until the lights came on
 
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I still have a nodule on my regals fin from lymph. He's eating very well and I do regular water changes on the qt tank. He eats spirulina enriched brine shrimp soaked in garlic. I was thinking of trying some maricyn quick cure but not sure if that will help any. He was due to go in the display tank next week but I want to make sure this is cleared up before he goes in.
 
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