Regal Angel Primer

[Reef908]

Ordered from where?

NY aquatics.

Been about 24 hours now and it def had/has flukes. Vigorous head shaking about once every few minutes. Since it's super fat I did prazi right away even though it had not taken any food That I offered. Within about 20 min of the dose I noticed a bunch of opaque small objects on the bottom of the QT that kind of looked like rice (except super tiny) and the fish has stopped shaking now completely that I have seen. I'll does again after a water change in a few days. Fast forward to this morning, it is still shy and has not eaten yet but it has investigated what I have offered at least. I turkey baste out the food after about 20 min to not foul up the water much.

 

[ThRoewer]

The ones from NY Aquatics seem to always come with some form of pest. Flukes and velvet seem to be the most common.

I think I finally found out who is eating my snails in the 100 gallon tank: it's the larger one of my Sumatra Regals. I caught him going after a turbo snail with quite some patience. I'm pretty sure that the regals had a big part in wiping out the Stromatellas in that tank.
Both Regals are fat, but have almost completely stopped eating mysis - it seems that they don't like the larger ones I have right now. They now prefer pellets and flakes and whatever they can hunt down in the tank.

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[bif24701]

i do copper and general cure to get the praziquantel sans oxybispropanol to minimize issues. hypo only works on certain strains of ich. with velvet as wide spread as it is now a days i'd rather cover my bases for both all strains of ich and velvet. then a month in quarantine without meds continuing to develop and get a consistent positive response and eating habits and association with food and human while away from competition. has worked very well for me with maldives and red sea regals.

What are the Best high quality foods for them?

I like PE mysis, black worms (when I can get them) LRS foods and Hikari pellets


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[monkiboy]

What are the Best high quality foods for them?

I like PE mysis, black worms (when I can get them) LRS foods and Hikari pellets

live is always great (black and white(easier to culture) worms, scallops, clams, etc) and a high quality frozen like LRS blends are wonderful. good picks!

 

[Reef908]

The ones from NY Aquatics seem to always come with some form of pest. Flukes and velvet seem to be the most common.
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Yeah I was concerned after reading up on here which is why I am going all out with the QT. I was scared it would come in thin and not give me much time getting it to eat while also treating for things.

I put in a live little neck clam about 30 min ago. After about 10 min it went to investigate and it is currently devouring it as I type! Relieved. Now I have at least one go to food while I try and get it on pellets, Nori and flake for when I am traveling beside the normal foods I feed while home. They said it was eating frozen mysis and spirulina brine but it wanted nothing to do with either last night. I'll try both several more times of course since those are part of the frozen mix I feed the other fish.

 

[Reef908]

Quick update on my regal. Dosed a second round of prazipro yesterday, and not sure if that helped and is the reason, but today a switch definitely flipped. It has been cruising around the tank a lot more that it has been and it has been devouring frozen! It went through a cube of hikari mega marine angel that is loaded with sponge and now it's about 1/2 way done with a cube of spirulina brine. I am squirting portions of the frozen that has been thawed in rodi with a turkey baster and it's flying around (compared to how he/she was doing the last few days) and snatching the food out of the water column. Real happy about this development. I'll continue to try more foods over the next week and hopefully get the pellets and flakes to be eaten. Still ignores Nori so I need to get some more veggies in its diet....

 

[pfan151]

Noticed a problem on one of my regals. I was putting it through TTM because I thought it had ich but that doesn't appear to be the problem. Looking closer, on the tips of the fins and a few spots on the tail it has what appear to be eggs. They are bigger than ich and can be scraped off easily. I wasn't able to get a decent pic but they are white and perfectly round. There was one area on the dorsal fin that there was a clear cluster of about 6 of them all attatched to each other but clearly individual round eggs stuck together. Any ideas? It's definitely not lymphocystis. I've never seen this before.

 

[scuzy]

Just got this beauty from a fellow reefer

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[mk4fan]

Quick update on my regal. Dosed a second round of prazipro yesterday, and not sure if that helped and is the reason, but today a switch definitely flipped. It has been cruising around the tank a lot more that it has been and it has been devouring frozen! It went through a cube of hikari mega marine angel that is loaded with sponge and now it's about 1/2 way done with a cube of spirulina brine. I am squirting portions of the frozen that has been thawed in rodi with a turkey baster and it's flying around (compared to how he/she was doing the last few days) and snatching the food out of the water column. Real happy about this development. I'll continue to try more foods over the next week and hopefully get the pellets and flakes to be eaten. Still ignores Nori so I need to get some more veggies in its diet....

Good to hear, i also heard from locals that a lot of his fish have flukes. Lucky easily treated with prazi. Look forward to seeing pics of seeing more pics of your Regal.

 

[Reef908]

Good to hear, i also heard from locals that a lot of his fish have flukes. Lucky easily treated with prazi. Look forward to seeing pics of seeing more pics of your Regal.

Yeah two rounds of prazi knocked it out it appears. The regal is now going after all frozen food I throw in the tank and has been eating the Nori. I noticed it likes Nori in the morning only though so not sure why that is. destroys the Nori in the am and ignores it at night. I'll get some pics in a few days once the crud on the tank is cleaned off from the prazi lol

 

[Salty150]

Yeah two rounds of prazi knocked it out it appears. The regal is now going after all frozen food I throw in the tank and has been eating the Nori. I noticed it likes Nori in the morning only though so not sure why that is. destroys the Nori in the am and ignores it at night. I'll get some pics in a few days once the crud on the tank is cleaned off from the prazi lol

That's awesome!

 

[VJV]

i do copper and general cure to get the praziquantel sans oxybispropanol to minimize issues. hypo only works on certain strains of ich. with velvet as wide spread as it is now a days i'd rather cover my bases for both all strains of ich and velvet. then a month in quarantine without meds continuing to develop and get a consistent positive response and eating habits and association with food and human while away from competition. has worked very well for me with maldives and red sea regals.

Hi, may I ask what type of copper you are using? Cupramine, Coppersafe or other? Also, if you have used both in your opinion which is gentler.

Thanks!


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[Reef908]

I wanted to wait a few days to see if it was for real or if it was just a one off thing but the regal is gobbling up but types of NLS pellets I throw in the tank. He has eaten exclusively pellets for two full days. Today I went back to some frozen krill, mega marine angel, mysis, and spirulina brine mix for most of the day and when I tossed in some random pellets he went right for them! Super happy about this since I travel a decent amount for work and feed pellets in my auto feeder when gone.

I'll post some pics soon!

 

[monkiboy]

Hi, may I ask what type of copper you are using? Cupramine, Coppersafe or other? Also, if you have used both in your opinion which is gentler.

Thanks!

i've used both before, a lot, on various species, and have found as long as you ramp up over the course of a week to ten days depending on how finicky or sensitive the species is, i use both with great success. i know anecdotally folks say coppersafe/chelated copper is "more gentle" but i have not found that to be true. i've treated several hundred fish with both. i do like that cupramine's therapeutic range is easier to test for, with a quality kit like a chemetric copper kit, or rather read in the comparator so i do end up using ionic cupramine more often nowadays for the extra confidence it provides me in test results and keeping levels exactly where i want them. hope that helps.

 

[VJV]

i've used both before, a lot, on various species, and have found as long as you ramp up over the course of a week to ten days depending on how finicky or sensitive the species is, i use both with great success. i know anecdotally folks say coppersafe/chelated copper is "more gentle" but i have not found that to be true. i've treated several hundred fish with both. i do like that cupramine's therapeutic range is easier to test for, with a quality kit like a chemetric copper kit, or rather read in the comparator so i do end up using ionic cupramine more often nowadays for the extra confidence it provides me in test results and keeping levels exactly where i want them. hope that helps.

Thanks! That is helpful. I have used cupramine several times and even with slow ramp ups have had several fish dying. This Regal is super healthy so hopefully will work. I have Coppersafe but since have never used it and there seems to be some confusion regarding therapeutic dosage would rather stick with cupramine and given your feedback it is what I will do.

Another advantage of cupramine is that is super stable and easy to remove from the aquarium.


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[VJV]

What is a "chemetric copper test kit"? My major gripe with cupramine is the bloody Seachem copper test! It is impossible to read the continuous scale!!! I would love to be able to use something like a Hanna checker but unfortunately it does not work for cupramine.


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[monkiboy]

What is a "chemetric copper test kit"? My major gripe with cupramine is the bloody Seachem copper test! It is impossible to read the continuous scale!!! I would love to be able to use something like a Hanna checker but unfortunately it does not work for cupramine.

https://www.chemetrics.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=392

I completely understand. I stopped using those kits, API and Seachem for their respective copper solutions long ago.

there's a couple threads on R 2 R on the viable kits from chemetrics and hach. I've used thextensively former with great success, reliability, and confidence in therapeutic ranges.

 

[pfan151]

Need some help with my regal. I've tried every Med I can think of and nothing seems to have any effect. Tried kanaplex, metroplex, furan 2, paraguard, freshwater dips, formalin. Also, aside from the tail issue there are whitish bumps on the dorsal fin. Hard to see in the pic but they are near the center of the dorsal fin. Freshwater dips and formalin do not have an effect on them. Not sure what else to do. Just seems to get worse. He still eats great which makes it even more frustrating that I can't get it well.

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[carrots]

A product called Bio-Bandage is a medicated topical treatment for bacterial diseases worked on one of my small Regals. It is a powder that you dust onto the affected fins and after 5 seconds or so you return it to the tank. The powder stays on in the water and after a few days falls off when new tissue starts growing. The product is distributed through Hikari The phone # on the bottle is 800-621-5619 Good luck

 

[pfan151]

A product called Bio-Bandage is a medicated topical treatment for bacterial diseases worked on one of my small Regals. It is a powder that you dust onto the affected fins and after 5 seconds or so you return it to the tank. The powder stays on in the water and after a few days falls off when new tissue starts growing. The product is distributed through Hikari The phone # on the bottle is 800-621-5619 Good luck

Thanks. I'll give it a try