Return pump suggestions.

[RG Rude]

I have a new to me 75 gallon tank that will be mixed reef and I need a new in sump return pump. I have narrowed it down to these choices which are all offerred by the supplier that I use. I was just looking for some feedback or war stories for any of the listed pumps. I will be buying it this week. I have listed them in order of price;

Eheim 1262 Hobby pump (3 year warranty)
Mag 9.5 pump
Quietone 4000 pump
Taam Rio 17HF Pump

Thanks and any help will be appreciated.

 

[justisathomesea]

I am running the quietone 4000 on my 55 I like this pump its quiet and doesn't seem to add alot of heat to the tank. The good thing about the quietone pumps is they are internal or external pumps.

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[moonpod]

Tunze silence pump

 

[RG Rude]

I am running the quietone 4000 on my 55 I like this pump its quiet and doesn't seem to add alot of heat to the tank. The good thing about the quietone pumps is they are internal or external pumps.

sent from my hand held computer

Thanks for the input

Tunze silence pump

Thanks, but not sold by my supplier.

 

[wildman926]

Eheim, but 1260 model. 1262 would be too much, unless you have dual overflows.

 

[RG Rude]

Eheim, but 1260 model. 1262 would be too much, unless you have dual overflows.

One overflow but 4' head.

 

[sjm817]

Eheim, but 1260 model. 1262 would be too much, unless you have dual overflows.

Agree

 

[wildman926]

One overflow but 4' head.

I tried the 1262 on one overflow, with 5' of head, and it could not drain fast enough. I have a dual drain, but one was used as a backup. I now have to put it in service. This is on my 110. I tried the 1262 first on my 80g, with 4' of head, no go right off the bat. Wanted to drain the sump, which is rated to 125g. This is why I recommended the 1260. The Eheims may not have the pressure on the output, but they don't loose much pressure like other pumps do.

I am waiting on a 1260 pump cover so I can use it on the 1262 I have for the 80g. I have two 1262's.

 

[sjm817]

I have two friends that use 1262s on dual overflow 180Gs. Great pump for that app, but too big for a 75G single overflow.

 

[RG Rude]

One overflow but 4' head.

I tried the 1262 on one overflow, with 5' of head, and it could not drain fast enough.

I have two friends that use 1262s on dual overflow 180Gs. Great pump for that app, but too big for a 75G single overflow.

Thanks, this was the type of info I was looking for.

 

[daveydoodle]

Similiar question; I have a 75 gallon single overflow with a 30 Gallon sump. Is the mag Drive 9.5 too much? It's rated at 800 GPH @ 4' head height. I'll have it in the middle chamber looks like, so two (2) 90 elbows will be required to plumb the single return, in addition to a "T" off to the far chamber for a refugium. I'd rather go stronger and throttle it down with T's, elbows, gate valves, etc. I can also put an extra return in the DT. Still too much? I'm worried the DT won't drain fast enough to keep up.

 

[noplay180]

what pumps would you guys recommend on a 300 deep dimension

 

[moonpod]

return pump size depends on your drains. Remember a 1" drain absolutely maxes out around 600 assuming zero clog factor. 1.5" at 1500 again assuming zero clogging. Tank turnover through sump is a philosophical issue. I like around 5x or so personally and usually gravity feed my skimmer (external) directly from the overflow.

 

[torero500]

I tried both the Silence and Eheim 1260 series pumps, then tried the Eheim Compact + pumps I liked them better. The Silence and Eheim perform about the same but the Eheim had less audible hum to it.

As long as you're only trying to run about 4-5x display volume through your sump, which is the current line of thinking, you could use about the quietest return pump out there, the newer styled Eheim Compact + pumps, I think I run the 2000 or 3000 model, whichever one has a max output around 500-600. And I have to dial it back with a gate valve to about about 30% to match up with my 1.5" drain line. Plenty of power with that pump, it's very quiet, and has run completely trouble free since I got it.

 

[noplay180]

I tried both the Silence and Eheim 1260 series pumps, then tried the Eheim Compact + pumps I liked them better. The Silence and Eheim perform about the same but the Eheim had less audible hum to it.

As long as you're only trying to run about 4-5x display volume through your sump, which is the current line of thinking, you could use about the quietest return pump out there, the newer styled Eheim Compact + pumps, I think I run the 2000 or 3000 model, whichever one has a max output around 500-600. And I have to dial it back with a gate valve to about about 30% to match up with my 1.5" drain line. Plenty of power with that pump, it's very quiet, and has run completely trouble free since I got it.

I only have 2 1 inch bulkheads that came with this setup. Would i need two of the eheim pumps or one to get the 4 to 5 turnover

 

[moonpod]

calculate your head pressure with your planned plumbing setup. The head calculator is on the mainpage of RC. Then you can figure out which pump. I personally tend to "over do" it on the return pump and then make a manifold to feed my carbon reactor etc...

 

[pardalis]

I also have to say go with an Eheim 1260, great pumps!!!

 

[z3r0ko0l]

I use the mag9.5 which is overkill, but necessary. I have it split to two returns, one straight and one with a UV and chiller. Ball valves let me adjust the flow. Only bad thing I can say about this pump is the heat input, but your gonna get that with any internal pump. The Eheim is also a great pump. I would have no problems buying either again. If your planning on running more then just a return (skimmer/reactor/chiller), now or in the future, stick with your top 2 choices.

 

[torero500]

You're only needing to run about 350 gallon/hr max through your sump, and one Eheim 1260 or compact plus pump can handle that easy. You probably won't need to dial it back us much with a gate valve, but you'll be fine.

You have options for your drains, you could use your other drain for a dry standpipe, run return lines up through it, or could use both drains to feed into your sump. If you run a full siphon drain system (the quiestest), be sure to use a dry standpipe.

If you run a chiller, you can just run a separate maxijet inside your sump to pump water to the chiller and back to the sump. I've liked doing this better than plumbing it into your return lines, because taking down the chiller for the winter is very easy and you don't need to replumb anything. You also don't need to run as big of return pump either to account for chiller headloss.

 

[daveydoodle]

Torero500 -
Was your post in response to my question?

"Similiar question; I have a 75 gallon single overflow with a 30 Gallon sump. Is the mag Drive 9.5 too much? It's rated at 800 GPH @ 4' head height. I'll have it in the middle chamber looks like, so two (2) 90 elbows will be required to plumb the single return, in addition to a "T" off to the far chamber for a refugium. I'd rather go stronger and throttle it down with T's, elbows, gate valves, etc. I can also put an extra return in the DT. Still too much? I'm worried the DT won't drain fast enough to keep up. "

Just wondered if the 350 gph was enough for this...
(sorry, couldn't figure out how to quote original text)