RandyStacyE
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The RO 'wast water' would just be sediment filtered, carbon filtered, and would likely have a high TDS. I can test it to be sure, but my intention is to have much purer drinking water.
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The RO 'wast water' would just be sediment filtered, carbon filtered, and would likely have a high TDS. I can test it to be sure, but my intention is to have much purer drinking water.
AZDesertRat
In Memoriam
I wish people would quit perpetuating the MYTH that drinking RO or RO/DI water is bad for you. Its strictly that, a myth. There is no proof that drinking DI is bad. There have been a few inconclusive studies attempted but they do nothing to prove or disprove the myth. The problem is you cannot possibly drink enough water in your lifetime to cause any effects. You would literally drown in water before any effects would be seen. Remember the radio contest where the lady died from drinking too much water???
The other problem is you would have to survive on water alone as one potato chip would give you the salt and other things found in tap water and ruin the study!
That being said, I would not drink the flush or waste stream from my RO/DI system on a regular basis. Yes it has passed through a sediment and carbon filter but it still contains total dissolved solids that are 125% of what the tap water was to begin with.
The other problem is you would have to survive on water alone as one potato chip would give you the salt and other things found in tap water and ruin the study!
That being said, I would not drink the flush or waste stream from my RO/DI system on a regular basis. Yes it has passed through a sediment and carbon filter but it still contains total dissolved solids that are 125% of what the tap water was to begin with.
I have a similar situation, I decided to use one of those garden hose timers to turn on once per day for a time that gives me just enough water to compensate for Evap in my tank, this is fed through the RO/DI (which has the switch mentioned on page 1 to turn off the supply water once the float switch turns off the water to the tank) to a large holding tank that has 10 days worth of water just as backup. The float switch should last for a long time being flushed with RO/DI water. I set the holding tank at a higher elevation than the sump and used gravity to drain the holding tank into the sump. I used a float switch to control the water feed into the sump. This seems to work for me, no electrical use to feed water. As part of my routine I hit the float switch about once a month allowing more water to clean the switch. This layout has the benefit that the holding tank is filled once per day which helps the RO/DI to be more efficient (it runs for about 5 min per day), the timer is my first insurance to make sure I do not have water on the floor, the float switch in the holding tank is the second and the drain above the float switch hopefully will keep me safe. The shelf it sits on has fiberglass up the walls and a drain below. From there to the tank by using gravity and not a huge amount of water backup the float switch only allows a dribble of water so the evap and replacement are almost identical. I would like a better redundancy for the sump, I am trying to figure out a way to have 2 inline switches or something to make sure the tank does not end up with an extra dose of fresh water. Realistically unless I go on vacation I would see if the waterline is above or below the tape line that indicates the proper water level in the sump.
From what I know, water will get out and get everywhere, it will cause problems and you should make every effort to make everything redundant, floor drains are very good ideas and to only hold enough water to backup a short number of days and not have enough to sway your tank if it empties into the tank. I have a large spa maybe 500-800 gal (don’t remember) that I just purchased a few months back, I woke up and went out to the room it is in and everything was wet… it drained all the water into the drain, it was a high end spa but things happen. I had a floor drain that saved me but the rug under the pool table is soaked and in Oregon things are not drying fast… just be careful I had concrete floors looks like yours are wood framing.
Hope that gives you a few ideas.
Good luck,
-Ryan
From what I know, water will get out and get everywhere, it will cause problems and you should make every effort to make everything redundant, floor drains are very good ideas and to only hold enough water to backup a short number of days and not have enough to sway your tank if it empties into the tank. I have a large spa maybe 500-800 gal (don’t remember) that I just purchased a few months back, I woke up and went out to the room it is in and everything was wet… it drained all the water into the drain, it was a high end spa but things happen. I had a floor drain that saved me but the rug under the pool table is soaked and in Oregon things are not drying fast… just be careful I had concrete floors looks like yours are wood framing.
Hope that gives you a few ideas.
Good luck,
-Ryan
GuySmilie
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Although our household does drink RO/DI water, and no one has any qualms with it, I am somewhat concerned about the lack of chlorine. Especially the long-term build up of bacteria in storage vessels and tubing.
Then I recall when I lived in the country on a shallow well for 10 years.
I never did get used to well water.
RandyStacyE
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You can pick up a UV sterilizer for that if you are concerned. I assume that would work for ya.
It's kind of a funny scenario isn't it? Ya filter everything out of the water (especially chlorine) and now worry about not having chlorine in the water
Chlorine is NOT good for the body for many reasons.
It's kind of a funny scenario isn't it? Ya filter everything out of the water (especially chlorine) and now worry about not having chlorine in the water
Chlorine is NOT good for the body for many reasons.
laverda
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Yes that is true. What I am saying is most of the harmful stuff is removed by the sediment and carbon filters and our bodies do not benifit from zero TDS water.
AZDesertRat
As I said I would love to see some real facts. You may have seen Saying it is a myth does not mean it is. Just as my statements make sense to me, they may not be true. That is why I asked for facts. I would like to know what it is fact or fiction.
Steve
Nammy
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I'm no expert but, this is some of the stuff I've read.
"Deionized water is not safe to drink". Due to purity of water and lack of minerals, too much DI water can cause condition called osmotic shock. This is a direct result of DI water removing minerals and other elements from the body's cells more rapidly that the cell walls can stand. I believe state law (all states) requires a warning sign "Deionized Water - DO NOT DRINK"
I could be wrong, it's worth checking out.
Some people say no problem, others say it's ok. I don't want to find out the hard way. I have my RO/DI setup so the drinking part is just before the DI.
Here is some information on it http://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/dwq/nutdemineralized.pdf
"Deionized water is not safe to drink". Due to purity of water and lack of minerals, too much DI water can cause condition called osmotic shock. This is a direct result of DI water removing minerals and other elements from the body's cells more rapidly that the cell walls can stand. I believe state law (all states) requires a warning sign "Deionized Water - DO NOT DRINK"
I could be wrong, it's worth checking out.
Some people say no problem, others say it's ok. I don't want to find out the hard way. I have my RO/DI setup so the drinking part is just before the DI.
Here is some information on it http://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/dwq/nutdemineralized.pdf
AZDesertRat
In Memoriam
No one has been able to prove it causes problems so there is no sound scientific or medical evidence to refer you to. The studies which have been conducted by CDC and others is inconclusive . You can't get a control group of people to survive on water alone for the years and years it would take to even begin to see any possible damage. One pork chop, potato chip, tortilla... whatever negates the study. Take a look at Desani water, its DI. Others are too and people drink it all the time. Do you really thing companies like CocaCola, Pepsi and others who bottle the drinking waters would open themselves up to liability suits if there was evidence to the contatry??
GuySmilie, thats why it is recommended you disinfect the filter housings every time you change filters, to reduce the possibility of virus and bacteria growth in the unit. Keep it clean and pressurized and you are good. I have drank RO at home since 1992 and am mostly normal, well if you don't count the third eye, nervous tic and constant coughing anyway.....
GuySmilie, thats why it is recommended you disinfect the filter housings every time you change filters, to reduce the possibility of virus and bacteria growth in the unit. Keep it clean and pressurized and you are good. I have drank RO at home since 1992 and am mostly normal, well if you don't count the third eye, nervous tic and constant coughing anyway.....
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RandyStacyE
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The WHO is definitely NOT a resource, certainly not an organization I am willing to trust, and no one needs a ‘1 world ’ anything. Read up on the WHO and their vaccinations in Africa … you’ll see what I mean.
The WHO evidently advocates drinking water that is contaminated with fluoride! The fluoride added to 90% of drinking water is hydrofluoric acid which is a compound of fluorine that is a chemical byproduct of aluminum, steel, cement, phosphate, and nuclear weapons manufacturing. Read up on it and you will not want to drink it.
The WHO evidently advocates drinking water that is contaminated with fluoride! The fluoride added to 90% of drinking water is hydrofluoric acid which is a compound of fluorine that is a chemical byproduct of aluminum, steel, cement, phosphate, and nuclear weapons manufacturing. Read up on it and you will not want to drink it.
AZDesertRat
In Memoriam
DI still is not a problem. No one survives on water alone much less at the huge quantities it would take to possibly cause problems. The amount of minerals we get from water is almost zero, same with the amount of minerals etc. we could lose by drinking DI. We get minerals from food and supplements not water. Its a myth. Some University recently published a big list of Urban Legends and it was included in that list too.
laverda
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That argument does not hold water at all. Most colas contribute significantly to stomach ulcers. If it was true, we would not have a single cigerette company selling in the USA!! not to mention some of the things drug companies have sold and still sell!!
RandyStacyE
Sorry, I did not mean to hijack the thread.
Steve
So after reading the last 2 pages of back and forth about drinking filtered water... feed the house tank after the RO, with a tee the rest of the tee to the DI then off to the second tank that goes to your sump. You will have X gallons for the house and X for your Reef. You can get (for example) 5 gallons for the house side and 15 Gal for the Reef. Keep it simple, if there is a question if DI water could be harmful, why pay to over filter your drinking water. You would have less waste water, and replace the DI cartridge less frequently.
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