RowaPhos and Hair Algae?

[fijiblue]

I had the opposite happen - I started using BRS media and had a HUGE outbreak of algae! It is not like BRS is a miracle media (as many of you are leading to). It is the same iron oxide as everyone else. The difference between BRS and ROWA is that one is an iron oxide and the other is an iron hydroxide.

Since the incident, I started using aluminum oxide (white media) and have had better results...FWIW

 

[Sir Edward]

I have been looking for a Phosban Reactor, I am building a 220. All the places I have looked seems to only have them for tanks up to 150. Will that still work for me?

 

[lbj]

sir edward you will need 2 for your tank ..? i used 3

 

[luther1200]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15533241#post15533241 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by fijiblue
It is not like BRS is a miracle media (as many of you are leading to).

I am not trying to say it a miracle. I am just telling my experience with BRS HC GFO and almost every other iron based GFO on the market. With pictures as proof, and I have more pictures if anybody is interested. And I know it was the GFO that made the difference because it was the only thing that changed. And since I am not the only 1 who had similar issues I would say that there has to be more to it than just a coincidence. I don't necessarily think the ROWAphos was causing the algae, but I do know that it did little to nothing to get rid of the algae. And I know that running half the max dose of BRS HC GFO did in 2 months what Phosban, PURAphos, ROWAphos,etc, couldn't do in 2 years. But to be perfectly fair I didn't try Phosban, PURAphos, and a few others as long as I had been running the ROWAphos. But I did run them for at least a month or 2 each and saw zero results. Where the BRS HC GFO was amazing in that amount of time. I also am not talking about BRS pellets or regular GFO because that I never did try. I am only referring the the high capacity GFO from BRS.

 

[Doug864]

It is not like BRS is a miracle media (as many of you are leading to).

Not one person said it was a (miracle media) except you!
And so far you are the only one that has had a bad experience with BRS. Maybe all these reefers praising BRS work for BRS
Regards,
Doug

 

[luther1200]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15534174#post15534174 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Doug864
Maybe all these reefers praising BRS work for BRS
Regards,
Doug

Or maybe and much more likely, we are just happy to have a great GFO at a good price. And don't want to see people waste there time and money fooling around with a product that didn't work for any of us. And in most cases actually made the problem worse.

 

[whatcaneyedo]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15534350#post15534350 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by luther1200
Or maybe and much more likely, we are just happy to have a great GFO at a good price. And don't want to see people waste there time and money fooling around with a product that didn't work for any of us. And in most cases actually made the problem worse.

You're lucky in the States in that regard. For those of us who live in Canada after adding tax, shipping and exchange BRS HCGFO is more expensive than Rowaphos... about $7/lbs more unless I spend nearly $1000 at a time but regardless of how much I buy it will still be more expensive.

 

[luther1200]

That stinks. There is no other high capacity GFO you could get without having to pay for the expensive shipping?

 

[fijiblue]

I am not trying to say it a miracle. I am just telling my experience with BRS HC GFO and almost every other iron based GFO on the market.

Iron oxide and hydroxide, regardless of the distributor, comes from the same manufacturer overseas. The only thing different is the label.

And so far you are the only one that has had a bad experience with BRS.

My bad experience was with switching from iron hydroxide to iron oxide, regardless of who it was from - just so happened to be from BRS.

Maybe all these reefers praising BRS work for BRS

Pathetic you even went there Maybe I work for ROWA...

 

[GlassReef]

Let's get this thread back on a friendly note, folks.

fijiblue - I'm not saying your wrong, I'm far from being an expert, but I was under the impression the hydroxide came from a particular German company and most, if not all, of the oxide comes from another.

 

[fijiblue]

That is correct, hydroxide is made by a Germany Co. and oxide comes from not only Germany, but from China as well. There is still a debate to this day on which one has stronger absorption traits and capacities...

 

[Doug864]

Maybe all these reefers praising BRS work for BRS.

Wow, that was suppose to be a joke. All the replys were having positive feed back with BRS. Read the whole post and you might get it. Then again maybe not, oh well.
Regards,
Doug

 

[GrouperGenius]

Well, I for 1 am willing to try the BRS HC GFO.

I have been using ROWAphos and a fuge of Chaeto. I would think if the ROWA was taking PO4 out of the water my chaeto would not grow. But that is not the case. My chaeto is growing fast and still have many different nuisance algaes in the tank.

 

[luther1200]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15535354#post15535354 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by fijiblue
Iron oxide and hydroxide, regardless of the distributor, comes from the same manufacturer overseas. The only thing different is the label.

I am not a chemist and I won't pretend to be on the computer. All I know is that 1 worked a thousand times better than the other. I have no idea why. I have read posts and threads in the chemistry forum where they compare GFO. And according to the people over there the HC GFO is indeed better.

 

[fijiblue]

"Read the whole post and you might get it. Then again maybe not, oh well."

I think you are the one that missed the point, chief

By all means, if you haven't tried BRC HC media - please do. All I am saying is don't think it is going to be way better than other HC GFO's because in reality, it came from the same manufacturer.

 

[luther1200]

Very mature response.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15533241#post15533241 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by fijiblue
I had the opposite happen - I started using BRS media and had a HUGE outbreak of algae! It is not like BRS is a miracle media (as many of you are leading to). It is the same iron oxide as everyone else. The difference between BRS and ROWA is that one is an iron oxide and the other is an iron hydroxide.

Iron oxide and hydroxide, regardless of the distributor, comes from the same manufacturer overseas. The only thing different is the label.

And a total contradiction of your earlier post. Were you say BRS HC GFO is basically the same thing as ROWAphos with a different label. Or were you the one who didn't get the fact that the whole thread was reffering the BRS HC and not there regular GFO.This will be my last response to you.

 

[blennielove]

Greetings all,
What is BRS HC GFO ?
Thanks!

 

[GlassReef]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15535539#post15535539 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by fijiblue
... There is still a debate to this day on which one has stronger absorption traits and capacities...

And there are probably very few, in the hobby, that have the expertise/hardware/inclination to find out.

One thing I was thinking - GFH, as it's name implies, is wet, whereas GFO is dry. What if it (GFH) went through a period of incorrect (whatever that might mean) storage - let's say in a warm climate? Is it possible that some bacterial (or other) contaminant could grow using the hydroxide as a medium? A rhetorical question, of course, but could some bacteria or mold, serve as a growth accelerator for algae?

 

[GlassReef]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15535835#post15535835 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by blennielove
... What is BRS HC GFO ?

Bulk Reef Supply's High Capacity Granular Ferric Oxide.

 

[fijiblue]

Were you say BRS HC GFO is basically the same thing as ROWAphos with a different label

Perhaps you missed the spot where I describe the difference between Iron Hydroxide (ROWA) and Iron Oxide (BRS HC GFO) - at any rate, here it is again:

"The difference between BRS and ROWA is that one is an iron oxide and the other is an iron hydroxide. "

To avoid confusion again...any wet media (Iron Hydroxide) regardless of the company that sells it, comes from the same manufacturer. The same goes for all dry media (Iron Oxide) with the exception of some being manufactured in China as well.

This will be my last response to you.

Thank you...

One thing I was thinking - GFH, as it's name implies, is wet, whereas GFO is dry. What if it (GFH) went through a period of incorrect (whatever that might mean) storage - let's say in a warm climate? Is it possible that some bacterial (or other) contaminant could grow using the hydroxide as a medium? A rhetorical question, of course, but could some bacteria or mold, serve as a growth accelerator for algae?

Very interesting question - not sure on that one and definitely would be interested in finding out.