"Salinity Phosphate Remover" from the pool store... Can I use this to remove p04????

[ghstrider]

"Salinity Phosphate Remover" from the pool store... Can I use this to remove p04????

I cant find the chemical ingredients of this product and want to know if I can dose it in my brute tank full off live rock. The water tested at 0.7 yesterday with a hanna checker. The brute is on my patio and has a rio pump just circulating water and a fuge light on top. I need to quickly remove the phosphate so I can start the setup of my tank and I was hoping this product I bought will do the trick....

Ideas???

 

[ghstrider]

 

[ghstrider]

Another thing I read is that these products bind the phosphate into a fine dust and thats harmful to fish. I dont have this rock in my tank and I plan to dose it in the brute but IFFFFF I can use this product, will I be bringing those particulates into the new tank when I set up my rock? Should I use a smaller container with new saltwater to shake off the rocks?

 

[bertoni]

The product probably contains lanthanum chloride, although I couldn't find much information on it. If so, it will be fine to use if you runs the rock thoroughly after treating it to remove the fine dust. If I could find a MSDS sheet for it, that might help to make sure the product is safe.

 

[ghstrider]

So i guess ill wait til tomorrow and maybe call the company direct and ask. suggestions on how to rinse off that rock real well after dosing this stuff?

Also, would it be a bad idea to just set up my rock work and start the tank and just run gfo til this stuff is gone and avoid using a lanthanum chloride product??

 

[bertoni]

You could hose down the rock if you're very worried, but a good rinse probably is good enough. A bit of precipitate should be safe enough. I'd worry about larger quantities.

GFO can do the same job as lanthanum chloride, but it will be more costly. Your call. You could give it a shot to see how much phosphate the rock might leach.

 

[ghstrider]

Ill call tomorrow n see what the company says and ill post here for your thoughts bertoni. Thanks!

 

[bertoni]

You're welcome!

 

[BrettDS]

I need to quickly remove the phosphate so I can start the setup of my tank

For what it's worth, this is a dangerous attitude to have when running a reef tank. Trying to do pretty much anything quickly in this hobby will almost always lead to loss of money and/or loss of livestock.

Speaking as a very impatient person who started my first reef tank more than 15 years ago, I have learned this lesson more times than I care to admit.

 

[Sk8r]

This could be real expensive if it goes wrong.

 

[ghstrider]

Guys im not in a rush. What i mean is id like to try the Lantanum chloride route since the tank is empty and id be dosing it in a brute with just live rock

 

[ghstrider]

Bertoni,

Here is the msds sheet... I called and they sent it to me. Seems like its only Lanthanum Chloride but the rep said the concentration is a trade secret. How much should i dose into the brute and how? I read some do it in a fine filter sock to catch the precipitates or can i just shake it off after in a new vat of salt water?

 

[ghstrider]

 

[ghstrider]

 

[bertoni]

It's lanthanum chloride, so it should be safe if dosed appropriately.

 

[mrbigshot]

get yourself a filter sock or make one using some old socks doubled up. drip the lanthanum chloride into there with a small pump pumping water into it. the crust stuff that forms when you drip it into the water will stay in the socks and keep your rocks clean.

lanthanum chloride must be dripped into the water slowly. you cant take a measured amount and pour it.its just makes a big mess and doesn't distribute threw the water column, only eliminating what it touches.
the amount you dose is however much it takes to reduce phosphates to 0. once you the rock will keep releasing phosphates for nearly ever however most is done in the first year.once you get a good majority of it done with the cheaper lc you can let gfo do the rest once its in the tank. gfo is far more expensive so its best to be used to keep it low.