salt mix

[gasman059]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11303794#post11303794 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Paul B
I don't know of any research but all of our animals come from NSW, none of them come from ASW.
How bad could it be?

ditto!

 

[coralfragger101]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11304154#post11304154 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by gasman059

quote:No salt in this study is an accurate simulation of natural sea water. All salts had at least one toxic heavy metal that was far in excess of NSW levels. When all factors are considered, Tropic Marin, Instant Ocean, and Kent Marine score the best, but such a score can not be arrived at without some amount of subjective judgment in evaluating the pertinent factors.

If you are going to quote a study, shouldn't you quantify that with "what" study this is from?
What salts were tested? How were they tested? Who were they tested by?

I'm certainly not an expert but I know there have been many studies done and many studies that would certainly disagree with the above statement.

 

[gasman059]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=#post target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by coralfragger101
If you are going to quote a study, shouldn't you quantify that with "what" study this is from?
What salts were tested? How were they tested? Who were they tested by?

I'm certainly not an expert but I know there have been many studies done and many studies that would certainly disagree with the above statement.

buddy if you read the post it specifically states""real" seawater versus synthetic mixes- many valid arguments pro and con for either alternative"

Furthermore there's soooo many studies that state the pros and cons that at this point this will not anything to the thread.

Amongst professional marine biologists, particularly those who work with invertebrate embryos, the average artificial sea water mix has been recognized for many years as an imperfect substitute for what is the perfect medium for marine animal growth, pure oceanic sea water. This is particularly for delicate organisms such as embryos (Strathmann, 1987). Marine organisms have evolved in natural sea water, and natural selection has fine-tuned their physiology to this medium. Many of these organisms do not have waterproof skins, and the well-being of the creature is directly dependent upon the solution surrounding them. While there is some toleration of variations from the "normal" condition to those that the animals are attuned, generally that tolerance is small and limited only to the range of natural variation (Prosser, 1991).

Here's one http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-03/rs/feature/index.php

good luck and happy reefi9ng.

 

[coralfragger101]

buddy, if you read your own post you specifically "quoted" from somewhere. I was merely asking where that somewhere is.

In your latest post you also "quoted" from somewhere. AT&T's server is on the fritz tonight and I can not access the link you gave so I don't know if your second quote came from that link or not.

I'm not here to argue which salt is better or if a synthetic is better than NSW.

My latest main point was simply that if someone quotes something from another source, they should say "what" that source is.

 

[gasman059]

BTW I do believe if u google Shimek Phd. you will find some articles that do go over pros and cons.

This is a myth.

I use NSW because is easier , delivered and never had issues with it.
Most importantly I'm way to lazy to mix my own.

 

[gasman059]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=#post target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by coralfragger101
buddy, if you read your own post you specifically "quoted" from somewhere. I was merely asking where that somewhere is.

In your latest post you also "quoted" from somewhere. AT&T's server is on the fritz tonight and I can not access the link you gave so I don't know if your second quote came from that link or not.

I'm not here to argue which salt is better or if a synthetic is better than NSW.

My latest main point was simply that if someone quotes something from another source, they should say "what" that source is.

got it

My bad I guess I should have posted some references.

 

[gasman059]

Fragger another important reason for me is the fact that I've pretty much had the same guy and "water" for the last 11 years.

It used to be an old friend named Fidelio. Now I get water from same lfs although most of the water IMO is pretty much the same.

 

[coralfragger101]

Like I said before, I'm not really trying debate one over the other. I've seen photos of your tank and your corals look awesome. I'd keep doing what you are doing if I were you as well.