Salt study results from MACNA conference

The S-15 apears to be the same thing as the S-10. It's not very independant when bought and paid for by the manufacturer. If it was truly and independant study, the report would be available independant of Aquacraft and any aquarium mag they sent it to.
 
It's hard to take Aquacraft seriously when their newsletter is plagued with spelling errors. They can afford all of these so called scientific tests to toot their own horn, but they can't afford spell check? :D
 
So I am assuming that nobody has used their brand of salt.....Interesting.......I wonder if it is as good as they claim.......
 
I find it a little humorous that so many people are concerned with the n=1 (sample size) issue.

Take a look at all of the advice given on this board, and you'll have to agree that all of it (with the rare exception of links to scientific studies), for most RC hobbyists, n is always equal to 1.

This study is a first step, as Angel*Fish quoted above.

Watson and Crick didn't decode the human genome. ;)
 
Good point Tang Salad,

almost everything here is based on n=1 (their opinion), and their opinion is always the best. Almost everything we do in this hobby is based on anecdotal evidence and experimentation on the hobbyist level. This is the only reason the hobby has advanced so far in such a short time. Sharing information.

Take a deep breath folks, take the information for what it is, and relax. This is but the start of something greater.
 
Take a look at all of the advice given on this board, and you'll have to agree that all of it (with the rare exception of links to scientific studies), for most RC hobbyists, n is always equal to 1.
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...and you'd have to be an idiot to take a single person's (n=1)recommendation! ;)


Don't get me wrong, like I said before I'm going to wait til it's published to see what it's all about, but you can't hold it against anyone for being skeptical about the design.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8404380#post8404380 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ryansholl
...and you'd have to be an idiot to take a single person's (n=1)recommendation! ;)
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LOL, ok, I'd agree with that.

But my point is that even the commonly agreed-upon reefkeeping methodologies discussed in the hobby are largely n=1. It's all anecdotal, from a scientific POV.

This is with exception to earlier research done by Wilkens, Jaubert, Adey, Sanjay, Holmes-Farley, Shimek and Borneman. Wait....who? :lol:

Anyway, I think most people (still reading this thread) are interested in the study because it's interesting, not because it will be published in Nature.

Just my two cents.
:)
 
when it comes down to it i don' t thinkwhich salt mix one uses is going to make or break your reef aquarium. Some will require more additives but i've seen many gorgeous tanks with just as many diiferent salts being used. IO probably the most popular.
 
I have been using IO but have had some algae issues in my tank. Due to the macna study and a local study of reefers experimenting with tanks larger than mine, I am going to try tropic marin pro in my 12g when it comes in from fosters and smith.

Maybe we'll see a difference! I liked how it was rated to be very close to natural sea salt but not erm, IO :)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8248167#post8248167 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DrBDC
I spend about 10 cents to correct a 32 gallon brute container worth so it's not enought to pay 8 bucks more when I only spend 50 cents to correct the whole bucket.
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It's funny reading many of the other posts in this thread. I do the same as you DrBDC. I would probably use RC but there is a real cost issue. I buy all my IO for the year on Boxing Day. 50% off sale. Makes RC about $55.00 more a bucket then the IO.

As for all the guys/gals fixated on the rep not recomending IO for reef tanks. What did you expect him to say? His company produces a reef tank specific salt. If you had posed the same question to him prior to the production of RC what do you think the answer would have been.

When you go shopping for a high end car what does the saleperson recomend, the Cavalier or the Caddilac?
 
Any new updates? New info?

I understand there will be no perfect solutions, but I don't conisder the fact that IO is low in CA or MG to be anything at all. If you have figured out how to get MAG/DOW flakes & Epsom salts you can adjust to perfect levels of your choice for pennies.

I would like to see importiant trace elements & or lack of bad elements that would make me look at switching from IO to another brand.
 
lol @ n=1

if eric borneman says he prefers salt x i'm gonna use it or at least give it a shot. i don't care how he comes to his conclusion.

if he licks his thumb and sticks it in the wind, far out. i'm in.
 
i just use NSW, no need to worry about which salt is the best that way. i figure $10 bucks every two weeks for the real deal is better then the hassle of worrying about which salt is the best.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9441165#post9441165 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by porthios
lol @ n=1

if eric borneman says he prefers salt x i'm gonna use it or at least give it a shot. i don't care how he comes to his conclusion.

if he licks his thumb and sticks it in the wind, far out. i'm in.
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I 100% agree.

Did he say that he prefers one over another yet? I have not heard anything.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9441165#post9441165 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by porthios
lol @ n=1

if eric borneman says he prefers salt x i'm gonna use it or at least give it a shot. i don't care how he comes to his conclusion.

if he licks his thumb and sticks it in the wind, far out. i'm in.
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I don't know if *I* would go quite that far LOL but, I do know that we've battled cyano in our 75g reef after every water change using IO and wondered what the heck we were doing wrong, for 3 years. I recently set up a 5 gal hex Eclipse to cycle for dwarf seahorses, and to keep it pest-free didn't use anything from existing tanks - just new sand and a piece of shrimp to start the cycle. Brown slime algae the first week, cyano the second week, hair algae starting now. Once we use up the IO we have stockpiled, I'm going to try Red Sea Pro and see if there's any change, better or worse.

-Sonja
 
Angel*Fish,

Many thanks for opeing this thread.
Followed through and thinking hard on my next salt purchase.

May Ditch IO in favour of Red Sea. Used Red Sea before, abt 2 yrs back. Did n't dissolve easily then and heard of batch inconsistencies, so dicth it then for corallife. Now Red Sea again? What a big circle: Isn't the earth round? :).
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9441884#post9441884 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by cham
I 100% agree.

Did he say that he prefers one over another yet? I have not heard anything.
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IIRC from the presentation at MACNA, he said he doesn't do water changes anyway so it's rather a moot point for him.

-Sonja
 
Seriously. Anyone uses Marine Environment with good results?

One of my reefer buddy says its good. He switched from Corallife few months back.
 
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