schooling green chomis with predator fish?

[cantfindnemo]

I am starting out my 150gal predator which will include a clown trigger, huma trigger, panther, harlequin tusk, emperor angle and a school of green chomis around 13.

Now my questions are

1. what do you think of the fish as far as compatabilty?

2 what order should I put these in?

3 can a school of chomis work with these fish and has anyone ever done this?

 

[cantfindnemo]

I forgot to add I am also adding a sohal tang.

 

[yoboyjdizz]

Your tank is too small for a emperor angel or any large angel really , a clown trigger, panther grouper and a sohal tang... I wouldn't keep a clown trigger and sohal in the same tank.

 

[yoboyjdizz]

The huma trigger and tusk and school of chromis sounds like a good idea.. any other fish you might be interested in? maybe an eel?

 

[cantfindnemo]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8939299#post8939299 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by yoboyjdizz
Your tank is too small for a emperor angel or any large angel really , a clown trigger, panther grouper and a sohal tang... I wouldn't keep a clown trigger and sohal in the same tank.

I don't really understand what you are telling me so I can't keep a clown, panther or sohal in a 150gal or just a large angle?

 

[yoboyjdizz]

sorrry all of them.... maybe for a while but it wouldnt be the right thing to do

 

[rdumont55]

A 150g is fine for a large angel. As long as the angel is not 12" or more, and the water quality stays excellent. People that give advice on this site have to understand that not everyone has 300g or more tanks for whatever reason. As long as the fish are not purchased too large or are not extremely fast growers (ie. panther groupers, bumblebee groupers, etc.) a 90g to 180g can house certain large fish in their juvenile or small adult stage. I have seen many adult angels including Imperators in the 5" range that would be fine for a 150g, as well as clown triggers (they turn into jerks around 5-6") and sohal tangs (add last as they are very territorial).

 

[yoboyjdizz]

Just cause you can't afford a large tank dosent mean you can keep a fish that needs one in a small tank...??? I did say it could work for a while but why by fish and not want to keep them long term??? I have a 280g tank but i wouldn't put a sohal or clown trigger in there.. The risk out weigh the awards.

 

[I like Triggers]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8939896#post8939896 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by yoboyjdizz
Just cause you can't afford a large tank dosent mean you can keep a fish that needs one in a small tank...??? I did say it could work for a while but why by fish and not want to keep them long term??? I have a 280g tank but i wouldn't put a sohal or clown trigger in there.. The risk out weigh the awards.

Do you have expirence with those fish? Doesnt sound like you do.

Anyways I will answer the question he asked instead of the typical flame most people recieve when asking a question. I added 10 chromis to my 225 with (at the time) a 5" humu trigger, 5" vlamingi tang, 8" golden belly dogface and 22" Snowflake Eel. They picked eachother off at a decent rate. Within a month they were all gone. Their fins were constantly being nipped by eachother.

 

[cantfindnemo]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8939896#post8939896 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by yoboyjdizz
Just cause you can't afford a large tank dosent mean you can keep a fish that needs one in a small tank...??? I did say it could work for a while but why by fish and not want to keep them long term??? I have a 280g tank but i wouldn't put a sohal or clown trigger in there.. The risk out weigh the awards.

I tend to agree with rdumont55, what is you inturpetation of " it could work for a while"? all these fish take 6+ years to out grow a 150gal tank and some even more. I agree with you if after all these years you don't have a plan to find them a home but come on.

 

[yoboyjdizz]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8940078#post8940078 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by I like Triggers
Do you have expirence with those fish? Doesnt sound like you do.

Anyways I will answer the question he asked instead of the typical flame most people recieve when asking a question. I added 10 chromis to my 225 with (at the time) a 5" humu trigger, 5" vlamingi tang, 8" golden belly dogface and 22" Snowflake Eel. They picked eachother off at a decent rate. Within a month they were all gone. Their fins were constantly being nipped by eachother.

No i have never kept a sohal but do have experiences with clown triggers.. These fish do grow fast and do get nasty in small confinds.. I didnt flame him i said it wouldn't be wise for him to house these fish in such a small tank "for these fish" a 150g is a nice size tank just not for these fish.. I did answer his question i said the chromis would be great addition alot of people say they take each other out while some have kept a good school of them in their tanks for years.. But go ahead throw all those fish in there post pictures of your progress and maybe we can all learn something!

 

[roadracer]

Green chromis' never seemed to be able to live with agressive fish in my experience.

 

[yoboyjdizz]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8940077#post8940077 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by cantfindnemo
I tend to agree with rdumont55, what is you inturpetation of " it could work for a while"? all these fish take 6+ years to out grow a 150gal tank and some even more. I agree with you if after all these years you don't have a plan to find them a home but come on.

I mainly concerned about tempermant of these fish rather when there going to grow out of this tank.. The angel loves to be the boss of the tank and if not allowed to be can become a pain.. With a sohal and clown trigger in there also to domminant fish of their kinds just seems like trouble in the making.. Thats all i was trying to get accross.. Your first questions was what do you think of the fish as far as compatabilty?

 

[bushwick]

I have a 160G tank but with not so normal dimensions

87.5 long, 31.5 wide and 12 high.

Fish

1 x 6 inch sohol (grown 1.5 inches in 2 months)
1x 5 inch lip stick tang
1 x 6 inch picasso
1 x 2.5 inch clown trigger
1 x 6 inch lunare wrase (also grown a good 1.5 inches in 2 months).

The lunare, clown trigger and sohol where added first. Then the lip stick and Picasso about 3-4 weeks after.

From most dominant to least would be

1. Picasso is king of the tank (he hates the clown trigger - every one stays out of his way). Lovely fish with a great personality. I pat the top of his head....not bothered by it at all.
2. Sohol (he hates the clown trigger and tries it on with the lip stick, who could not be bothered...no damage done)
3. Clown trigger (hates the sohol). Few nip marks also taken out of the sohols and lip sticks dorsal fin
4-5. Lunare wrasse / lipstick tang...both placid, except feeding time when the Lunare goes mental over food (very agro feeders).

In a tank with these dimensions there is plenty of swimming space except depth, but this has not proved a problem. I keep this system bare bottom (easy to keep the tank clean).

Future....clown trigger will go.....he is full of scares at the moment from the damage the sohol has done to him. I can see that he is going to be a problem fish once he starts getting larger.

Cheers

 

[hrdneglcry]

Chromis

Chromis

If you consider the Chromis to be expendable then yes it is OK. As far as mixing different Triggers it is anybody's guess. I kept 7 Niger's, an Undulate, a Black Durgeon, a Clown, a Picasso, and three Bursa's in one tank. But whenn I started I had two free 120 gallon tank's, a free 100 gallon tank, a free 60 gallon tank, and a free 30 gallon long tank. So I had a good amount of room to rescue picked on Triggers to. One thing that is said about Triggers is that one might get along well with all of the other fish, only to kill everybody else in a rant during the night after years of peacefulness. Also my experience has been that Undulate's are the meanest. I now own a Queen, and Fuscus, and they are definitely different beasts as far as Triggers go. My Niger's were the second worst because they formed a pack, and gave everybody Hell except for the Black Durgeon, and the Undulate who had a huge chunk of real estate all to himself.

 

[I like Triggers]

by the way, currently i am keeping the following in my 225 (96"x18"x30")

1- 5" Clown Trigger
1- 5" Humu Trigger
1- 5.5" Vlamingi Tang
1- 4" Clown Tang
1- 4" Lawnmower Blenny
1- 5" Rubyhead Fairy Wrasse
2- 2.5" Cleaner Wrasse
1- 22" Snowflake Eel

The humu and snowflake have been in there since august, and in another one of my tank for almost 3 years. The vlamingi has been in there since September or so. The Blenny, Wrasses, Clown trigger, and clown tang were added only about 3 weeks ago. There is no aggression from any of the fish at all.

 

[johno4]

In my 135 I have:

5in. niger trigger
3in. picasso
3in. yellow tang
3in. emperor angel
2in. majestic angel
4in. lunar wrasse
and 2 small green chromis

The niger being the bigest rules the tank, he only bullies the picasso once in a while by a short chase. Besdes that all the fish get along fine. I realize they are all small still and I will probably run into some problems in the future, but only time will tell. I would not consider the 2 chromis to be a school but it is cool to see them always swimming together.

By the way dont tell me my tank is to small, it will be but not now. I have an 8'x3'x2' tank sitting in my garage, I just dont have to room to set it up until I move in a few years.

 

[cantfindnemo]

I sure do apreicate everyones advice so far. So now I am leaning away from the school of chomis but I am still wanting a school of fish in my tank any advise of what type of fish are good schooling fish?

 

[I like Triggers]

Damsels would be a bad choice, so dont go with them. Anthias maybe? I have never put them with aggressive fish so I dont know how they would work out, but its an idea.

 

[cantfindnemo]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8945385#post8945385 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by I like Triggers
Damsels would be a bad choice, so dont go with them. Anthias maybe? I have never put them with aggressive fish so I dont know how they would work out, but its an idea.

I like the look of anthia actually better than the chomis but do they school well together? I want like 13 all together.