Sebae? - Will anything host this?

zachtos

zachtos

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I have two ocellaris clowns in my 240G reef. I bought this sebae white/blue anemone for aesthetics mostly, but I was hoping I could get a clown pair to mate to it. I'm now told that this wont be happening.

Any suggestions?


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closeup, hard to get a good focused shot and keep the camera from over exposing.

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there it is in the very center, the white blip

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in the background
 
Because you have a very large setup it will take a bit longer than usual for any clown to reconize its existance in the tank.

How long have you had it in there?

Sebae clowns are the ones best know for hosting those kinds of anemones.
 
I heard that my anemone looks 'bleached' too. Any input?

The sebae has been there for about 1.5 weeks now. The ocellaris clown pair tends to stay in the back corner out of site, quite boring, but they do swim with my chromis school on occasion.

I've heard that you can try to capture the clowns and put them in a hamster ball with the anemone for a while, and I've also heard that you can epoxy lil' fake plastic clownfishes (nemo toys!) right next to the anemone to lure them over there. Decoys like on duck ponds.
 
Your sebea is very bleached, most lfs sell them this way as "white" anemones, when healthy it will be tan to brown. Make sure you are feeding it weekly with raw shrimp.
 
Grrrr... My LFS has never burned me like that before. Pruess' is always good about that, and I work with the same person all the time. I likely would not have bought that anemone if it were brown/tan, especially since I had to turn down a friend w/ a BTA because I liked this one better aesthetically. I hope my ocellaris will atleast host it, otherwise I don't know if I'll actually keep this anemone.

I have not fed it directly yet. I tried a full piece of krill once, and a sliver of thawed salmon filet to no avail, but maybe I should try again this week. It was still fairly sticky, but I have been noticing that it has been shrinking/expanding frequently. Perhaps it's stressed and dying already.
 
Yea, it is very bleached. I would suggest trying to feed it small pieces of food. Big pieces will add to the stress that it is under.

Also, Sebaes prefer being on the sandbed, so you should try to move it off of the rocks.
 
Sebae anemones (H. crispa) are clownfish host anemones. They don't host ocellaris in the wild but they do naturally host percula clowns. If your clowns are inclined they will accept the anemones as a host. Since your clowns already seem to have a territory established, it would help to move the anemone a little closer to where they hang out.
 
I am not really enthused about moving my anemone, but I may consider it. I hope the sebae can survive in the rockwork. I fed it a few small pieces of krill today and it ate them. So maybe it will recover and turn it's lovely shade of brown.

I have a feeling I will be returning it to my LFS since they tricked me and didn't mention it was bleached. It was marked white/blue and I was told this by one of their best employees even, maybe he didn't know any better though. I may replace it w/ a standard BTA in that case.

Anyone think that a plastic clown decoy may lure them over?
 
if you do choose to replace it with a bta, may i suggest rearranging the rock-work creating an isolated area for the bta. limiting them to a good sized clump of rock away from the glass and other rock will help keep them (chances are it'll produce many clone's), from wandering all over the tank. bta's can be very destructive to corals.
because you have a large tank s. mertensii is another one you could think about. it's a natural host for ocellaris and they live on rock-work. although i've not kept one i'd think it shouldn't be any more diff. to maintain than a sebae. however they get huge. phil can give you first hand info on them. one of phil's post on this forum got me obsessed to find an ocean pic. of true perc's/h. crispa , has me questioning the validity of them being a natural host. good luck with it.
 
Both my sebae and LTA were bleached out petco refugees and looked just like yours, so don't give up(check my avatar)
BTA's are known to be good beginner nems due to light/care, but move and split alot.
Occs don't always take to nems, or take a long time, just not a natural thing for them.
May not take to a BTA either.
LFS many times just don't know, don't assume trick.
Feed a sliverside once a week, some mysis inbetween, let it get to natural color(they look nice when healthy, and you have a tank that will support it easy.
Expect to go to sand if light is good.
May want diff clowns, maroon, skunk, clarki.
 
I have had my sebae for about a month now. He was also bleached. Since then, he has colored up nicely even under my compact fluorescent lights.

Did have a problem with him attaching. I kept him down near the sand and sometimes he would just float around. Was very frustrating. But then one day I came home and there he was, 1/4 way up in the rocks. He really likes it there. Though I am not sure he acts right. He acts like a flower. There is a small cave there, and during the night he moves all tips and body inside. When the lights come on, he turns and opens like a flower.

But anyway, he didn't like the sand and seems to prefer the rock. Of course I get one that doesn't know what he is supposed to do, lol.

I also have 1 false percula. The only attention she gives it is to maybe try and steal some food from him if I don't feed her first. I have another clown in QT and am hoping that when I put him in the main tank he will host the sebea.
 
kentyacat
how long did it take your sebae to foot into the sand. i have had mine for about two weeks now and he still hasnt. he just floats and flips over on its mouth. do you think there is anything i can do to help him foot in. i checked all my water peramiters and they are good. my salinity is alttile high though. but im trying to get it under control. any advice?
 
I would agree with everyone about having a bleached sebae - don't worry they'll be fine as long as they get enough food and light. The LFS described this as a purple tiped sebae which was not the case. It now is pink/light brown - but it looks pink with the pc lights that I have.

BTW your tank looks nice!
 
monkey do u have any pix of your sebae? I would like to see any other pink specimens as people here in RC have said that mine is the only one they've seen on these forums. Here's a pic of mine.

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thx
 
Yours is dyed, the deep purple foot is a dead giveaway, as for the tentacles, it looks like the dye is fading, and the anemone is trying to regain its color.

As for me, My Seabae, wouldnt' attach to the sand, and had a loose foot, didn't attach to anything, but wouldn't flip over,

I had then moved it onto the rock work where its foot had attached, and it hasn't moved since, Perhaps Seabaes aren't true sand dwellers afterall. They all have their preference
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10793247#post10793247 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by williampaul
kentyacat
how long did it take your sebae to foot into the sand. i have had mine for about two weeks now and he still hasnt. he just floats and flips over on its mouth. do you think there is anything i can do to help him foot in. i checked all my water peramiters and they are good. my salinity is alttile high though. but im trying to get it under control. any advice?
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He hasn't attached to the sand. He went to a rock cave, 1/4th way up the tank. He grabs on and shifts his body either in the cave or spread open during the day to the light. He keeps moving his foot around grabing to go this way or that way. Not sure what the heck he is doing.

But, he did float and flip over on his mouth too. Just one day I came home and he was in this little cave area. Not sure if he floated there and got stuck and decided it wasn't such a bad place, or he actually meant to go there.

He eats and has gotten his color back (not sure how dark they should be), so I guess he is happy.
 
When I first had my sebae he would shrink up at night as well. I think it might just be because its still getting use to your tank. After a couple months mine stoped shrinking up to nothing at night and stayed inflated.
 
beg pardon bmgrocks, but i'm very sure my sebae isn't dyed, as the color is too even and natural for it to be dyed. The color would've faded unevenly, and the lfs hasn't had it for that long for the dye to fade so much. =\
 
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