I just had my floor redone with tile and I went to go set up my new 180(hence why the floor got tiled) and it was not level at all . Its off over 1/2 inch the length of the tank. the tile right in the middle is where the problem is and is causing the hump. You could rock the stand side to side. Right now I am trying foam between stand and floor to see if that works. I talked to the guy who installed the tile and he said that he cant make it perfectly level because the tile would be different heights. He says to get the tank level with a few shims then GROUT the stand in place by smashing it under the stand. He said it will get as hard as concert and wont have a problem. I have had this 180 for 4 months now and just want to get it up but dont want to wait, I know it needs to be done right... Hope someone can give me a few ideas or tell me what the best thing to do it. Im getting frustrated......:headwally:
Setting up 180 and floor not level
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davocean
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Boy 1/2" out in a 6' span is pretty off, but I do agree shims will work for you as far as leveling the tank, but I also agree there is a chance of tiles cracking if there are pockets, so maybe grab a couple tiles from your tile guy in case they stop production of that tile.
I'm a carpenter, and shims are standard in every cabinet job I've ever been on.
Composite shims may be best for your application.(like trex material)
You can cover w/ grout, but we usually hide it w/ trim or base moulding.
I'm a carpenter, and shims are standard in every cabinet job I've ever been on.
Composite shims may be best for your application.(like trex material)
You can cover w/ grout, but we usually hide it w/ trim or base moulding.
Agu
Premium Member
What he said.......... I used wood shims on a 180 that was off by about 3/8" end to end. After it was about 1/2 full of water I checked level and added shims every 2" at the end and sides of the stand. Then I just hid it with narrow molding at the base of the stand
IMHO, I'd be upset with the tile guy. 90% of his job was prep work. It was his job to make sure the tile was installed properly. I wouldn't accept his answer. Knowing that a tank was going there, he could have made up for irregularities in the floor with the thin set. His answer was the one with less work involved. Nothing aggravates me more than walking barefoot across a tile floor and feeling the different heights in the tiles.
And his answer with stuffing the grout under the stand doesn't work for me. You have a 1/2" difference there. Grout wont stay together at that thickness, with that much pressure.
To just deal with it yourself, do like the guys suggested, and use shims with a trim around the bottom.
And his answer with stuffing the grout under the stand doesn't work for me. You have a 1/2" difference there. Grout wont stay together at that thickness, with that much pressure.
To just deal with it yourself, do like the guys suggested, and use shims with a trim around the bottom.
davocean
Active member
I agree w/ Ezlight's comment, 1/2" in 6' is pretty extreme, but who knows what the guy had to deal w/, or what budget allowed for.
It's possible that could have been a slab that may have been very involved to correct, which means more $$ put out by OP.
But even if the tile was perfectly level, almost always there will still be some deviations that would call for shims.
I've never seen a cabinet job that did not call for shims on both the floor and wall, standard building procedure, and they can take a great deal of weight.
If it were my tank, I'd shim it and trim it, done in less than an hour.
It's possible that could have been a slab that may have been very involved to correct, which means more $$ put out by OP.
But even if the tile was perfectly level, almost always there will still be some deviations that would call for shims.
I've never seen a cabinet job that did not call for shims on both the floor and wall, standard building procedure, and they can take a great deal of weight.
If it were my tank, I'd shim it and trim it, done in less than an hour.
If it were a slab, it wouldn't have been crap to level out a hump. I see it all the time in commercial settings. They have grinders to fix that, the tile guy could have rented one, at what, $60 for the day.
Sorry, I hate contractors, and other skilled tradesmen, that don't take pride in their work. A little more attention to detail in prep work, and maybe $100 more on top of the job, and it would have been done right.
When I walk off a job site, I have complete confidence that no one can pick apart my work at all, and my install is 100%. The guy that writes 6 figures checks to the company I work for every month KNOWS that I did it right, and will back me every time. I can't say that about some of my co-workers. :uzi:
jeff@zina.com
New member
Yes it's safe. Or trim the middle. FWIW, almost everyone needs to shim a stand. Your kitchen cabinets and appliances are probably shimmed or use levelers. Your doors, windows and often the frame of your house is shimmed. Proper leveling prevents future leaks.
Jeff
davocean
Active member
My point is we don't know the whole picture or situation.
I don't like Contractors that don't take pride either, but I'm one of the few Contractors that doesn't just bash someone w/out all the details.
I've had too many times when the homeowner was unwilling to fork out the extra bucks to make right, especially in these tight times, and in saying that I'm not saying OP is doing that either, just keeping an open mind to the situation.
My main point is I agree w/ shims are common, used in every home, and will hold up just fine.
Whether the tiles crack or not is another story, but that could happen even if level, so I always advise having a few extra stashed for down the road, as they tend to discontinue certain tiles often.
I don't like Contractors that don't take pride either, but I'm one of the few Contractors that doesn't just bash someone w/out all the details.
I've had too many times when the homeowner was unwilling to fork out the extra bucks to make right, especially in these tight times, and in saying that I'm not saying OP is doing that either, just keeping an open mind to the situation.
My main point is I agree w/ shims are common, used in every home, and will hold up just fine.
Whether the tiles crack or not is another story, but that could happen even if level, so I always advise having a few extra stashed for down the road, as they tend to discontinue certain tiles often.
