Shark tank?????'s

A3zrider

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I've been thinking about doing a shark tank for a few years now and I'm ready to start doing the research. So I have a few questions for anyone who could shed some light for me. I've read about all the sharks you can buy but I kind of want to go with a more predatory shark. Every year in July I can catch small reef sharks and hammerheads between 10 and 16 inches like this one from this past weekend
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Basically I have a year to set up a tank and get everything running smoothly. My questions are. Is it even possible to keep these types of sharks? I don't really want a nurse shark or one of the bottom dwelling types. I have a 120 gallon tank sitting around but I'm looking at a tank in the 300 gallon range. Would that be sufficient? I've tried to research but I don't really find much about this type of situation. So any help or pointer would be appreciated, or just tell me I'm wasting my time.
 
You need to take into consideration their adult size. A reef shark can get up to 6' long, while a hammerhead 10' or so. Maybe if you were looking in the 3,000 gallon range it would be feasible. Also consider the feeding costs for the shark, and the fact that when it comes to messy eaters and tank pollution as a result, a shark would be at the extreme end of the range.

They will be better off left in the sea.
 
Hate to tell you Rider but it is a waste of time. Things grow and a Hammerhead in a 300 will be bumping it's hammer against the glass in short order. Sharks, even the smaller species, need to be in huge public aquariums. No matter what people tell you, they do not thrive or, for that matter, last that long in the tanks most reefkeepers maintain. You may get other opinions but trust me on this.

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Well nurse sharks grow to over 10 feet in the wild but they seem to be the most common thing people put in their tanks. After some reading on that subject I'm under the impression that you can dictate their growth based on the size of the enviroment and the rate at with you feed them. Atlantic sharp nose is also a possibility and they only reach 2 1/2 feet in the wild
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10419675#post10419675 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by A3zrider
Well nurse sharks grow to over 10 feet in the wild but they seem to be the most common thing people put in their tanks. After some reading on that subject I'm under the impression that you can dictate their growth based on the size of the enviroment and the rate at with you feed them.


That is just morally and ethically irresponsible IMO.
 
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The sharks that you want to keep would require an experts knowledge as well as a huge tank which would cost thousands and thousands before you even get water in it. I would say to drop the whole "large" shark idea and go with a smaller shark such as a bamboo shark which can be kept in an 8 foot tank. Putting sharks in an aquaium is a big risk, as you are lower their survival rate. One of the LFS in Ohio has a large shark ( 2-4' ) in a say 300-400 gallon tank and if you pay close attention and watch him, he will swim in the same path all day. Can't be too healthy for them as they just go in circles in such a small tank.
 
Andrew,

If you are talking about Exotic Aquatics in Northern Cinncinatti that is a 5000 gal tank holding two reef sharks.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10419872#post10419872 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by WaterKeeper
Andrew,

If you are talking about Exotic Aquatics in Northern Cinncinatti that is a 5000 gal tank holding two reef sharks.

Never been there, but I was refering to Aquarium Adventure in Columbus.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10419675#post10419675 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by A3zrider
Well nurse sharks grow to over 10 feet in the wild but they seem to be the most common thing people put in their tanks. After some reading on that subject I'm under the impression that you can dictate their growth based on the size of the enviroment and the rate at with you feed them. Atlantic sharp nose is also a possibility and they only reach 2 1/2 feet in the wild
an i could control ur growth by not feeding you verymuch and locking you in a closet sounds fun doesnt it?
 
Sharks grow slow. so if you don't over feed then you prolong the growth rate.

Many of the sharks readily available to the aquarist can grow to more than 3 feet in length. Because most aquarists cannot provide suitable housing for such large specimens, the shark inevitably outgrows the aquarium (or checkbook) of its owner. You can delay the inevitable by not overfeeding your shark. In nature, most sharks eat very little and grow slowly. Studies conducted both on captive and wild sharks have shown that to maintain good health a shark eats only 3 to 14 percent of its total body weight (t.b.w.) in food per week (Clark 1963).
 
Black Tip sharks can reach up to 6 feet. That tanks still way too small for a black tip. The one problem with buying a shark, is that if it gets too large... there isn't alot of places to take it to besides an aquarium.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10419967#post10419967 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by A3zrider
Sharks grow slow. so if you don't over feed then you prolong the growth rate.

Many of the sharks readily available to the aquarist can grow to more than 3 feet in length. Because most aquarists cannot provide suitable housing for such large specimens, the shark inevitably outgrows the aquarium (or checkbook) of its owner. You can delay the inevitable by not overfeeding your shark. In nature, most sharks eat very little and grow slowly. Studies conducted both on captive and wild sharks have shown that to maintain good health a shark eats only 3 to 14 percent of its total body weight (t.b.w.) in food per week (Clark 1963).

Can you give me a referance to where you found that sharks don't grow fast? :) You asked for advise but than don't want to take it.
 
Aren't Hammerhead sharks one of the most aggressive sharks? How would you plan on doing tank maintanence? If you dropped something in the tank, how do you plan on getting it out without losing an arm? Even if you tried tongs, the shark would easily shred them.
Those type of sharks are better left in the ocean, even in public aquariums they have a poor survival rate.
 
I don't get it, you're basically approaching keeping something as a pet with the plan to stunt it's natural growth. Why mutate a pet like that?
 
Even if they do grow slow, what will you do with it in 3-5 years when it does start to outgrow your tank? By all means you can put any shark in your tank but as you can tell, it's strongly not recommened. Me and others gave you our 2 cents, so I guess it's up to you on what you want to do with your tank.
 
A3zrider, you asked for opinions, that's what you received. Obviously you seem pretty set on going with the idea. So no matter what we say on RC, you are probably going to go with the idea anyway. Everyone that posted above thinks it is a bad idea and a disaster waiting to happen.
What do you plan on doing once the shark reaches maturity? Or it outlives you? How would you plan on transporting it to an aquarium or the ocean. You can't put a 10 foot shark in a plastic bag an acclimate/transport. And when it finally arrives to wherever you would have to donate it/trade/release it, you may find that local ordinances are not your friend and may face stiff penalties.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10419675#post10419675 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by A3zrider
Well nurse sharks grow to over 10 feet in the wild but they seem to be the most common thing people put in their tanks. After some reading on that subject I'm under the impression that you can dictate their growth based on the size of the enviroment and the rate at with you feed them. Atlantic sharp nose is also a possibility and they only reach 2 1/2 feet in the wild

Actually, no. Jack Wattley, other renowned breeders, as well as biologists have done different studies into this wonderfully moronic urban legend that "fish grow to the size of their tank."

No offense guys, but this is a really common "rule" that is utterly bunk, and different studies have gone into this myth- all of which proving the theory wrong. Well, okay, admittedly, these studies proved it right, but in the wrong way, if that makes any sense.

The most startling example of this was an experiment involving oscars. The last time the topic of "fish grow to the size of their tank" came up, I typed up the whole thing. This time, I'm too tired to do that. So, you guys get to head to your local library or calling TFH to read back issues. However, it was in an issue of TFH under the Skeptical Fishkeeper. The article pointed to the Jack Wattley discus experiment, but also to an experiment involving oscars. Both experiments involved keeping fish in conditions that breeders and biologists would consider to be well below the minimum aquarium size. And while the fish in these small conditions did not reach a normal growth size (*as well as being more sickly and slightly deformed in cases), that was not true answer. See, as a control, both Jack Wattley and the other keeper did massive water changes in one of the groups on a near daily basis. In those control groups, the fish reached an optimal growth speed.

While both tanks contained the same amount of fish, the same equipment, the same temps, and the same feeding/amount of food, the only difference was water quality. There, in fact, is the rub. Fish with a larger biomass produce FAR more wastes than smaller animals. In smaller tanks, there is less water to dillude these toxins over. So, yeah, you'll keep a large growing animal from getting large, but you will be basically slowly poisoning it to death.

In the case of sharks, I would RARELY recommend it to an experienced keeper with a large tank and I would NEVER recommend it to a newbie.


Check out why:
1.) Sharks are easily damaged. Their underbellies have a soft flesh that can be quickly ripped and scratched to bits by most substrates. Only superfine or sugarfine substrates can be used for sharks.

2.) Sharks QUICKLY grow large and outgrow most tanks. Get ready for a huge most-likely custom build, even if you're looking at a more dimunitive shark variety such as the small catsharks.

3.) Sharks are highly sensitive to stray electrical currents in the water, as well as some species having an exceptional sensitivity to electromagnetic fields. All equipment needs to be grounded out, as well as having a grounding probe.

4.) Be prepared to be eaten out of house and home. While some would argue a few large feedings a week is sufficient, the larger your shark grows, the more and more you're going to have to feed it more and more. And a varied diet at that!

5.) And the worst of all. Sharks are very dependent on excellent water quality.




If you're so interested in saltwater predators, why not start off with eels, triggers, or lionfish? They're large growing, with fascinating aggression and hunting patterns, as well as being relatively hardy and easy to come by. If you can be persuaded off of sharks, why not a smaller, hardier variety shark, such as the coral catshark, the bamboo shark, or the epaulette shark? Get your feet wet first before you attempt to keep animals well beyond your skill level. If you have any further questions, you can also check out the large tanks forums, or here for more info!

Welcome to the hobby!
 
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