show me your sun coral
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I have some questions:
1. Is this Tubastrea aurea?
2. Was Tubastrea aurea reclassified in Dendrophyllia something? Can't find the link right now.
3. Septal pattern differences within Tubastrea - maybe you have a photos or additional information.
My orange tubastrea's skeleton, possibly T. faulkneri (pink-salmon shade at arrival and new colonies have it):
4. What do you use for improving coloration, other, than cyclop eeze and white fish (the fish is an ultimatereef.net non-photosynthetic forum information)?
5. Who has/had dedicated NPC tanks with tubastrea - how high flow was tolerated?
I have suspicion, that scleronephthya and tubastrea could be incompatible because of flow.
Any particular tips on filtration?
I would like to remove my sun corals from the big tank and keep the fish in clean water - they deserve that.
6. Who has sun spawned and new colonies growing:
what to do with them and how? I would like to remove them from main tank and grow in easily accessible for a tweezers feeding place, but that would require removing all the big rocks - they are plagued by babies.
How make a compact placement of the babies, with room for a growth?
I know, that one of the options is having a sun coral forest
, as Daniela has (13 Mb pdf link), but my skimmer (ASM G-3, venturi, needlewheel pump) can't handle that. Could do that at nano-scale (10-12g tank with 7x oversized skimmer).
Will appreciate the input and, especially, the photos.
I have some questions:
1. Is this Tubastrea aurea?
2. Was Tubastrea aurea reclassified in Dendrophyllia something? Can't find the link right now.
3. Septal pattern differences within Tubastrea - maybe you have a photos or additional information.
link . More drawings of Pourtales plan and skeleton photos are here , only no translation available.
My orange tubastrea's skeleton, possibly T. faulkneri (pink-salmon shade at arrival and new colonies have it):
4. What do you use for improving coloration, other, than cyclop eeze and white fish (the fish is an ultimatereef.net non-photosynthetic forum information)?
5. Who has/had dedicated NPC tanks with tubastrea - how high flow was tolerated?
I have suspicion, that scleronephthya and tubastrea could be incompatible because of flow.
Any particular tips on filtration?
I would like to remove my sun corals from the big tank and keep the fish in clean water - they deserve that.
6. Who has sun spawned and new colonies growing:
what to do with them and how? I would like to remove them from main tank and grow in easily accessible for a tweezers feeding place, but that would require removing all the big rocks - they are plagued by babies.
How make a compact placement of the babies, with room for a growth?
I know, that one of the options is having a sun coral forest
, as Daniela has (13 Mb pdf link), but my skimmer (ASM G-3, venturi, needlewheel pump) can't handle that. Could do that at nano-scale (10-12g tank with 7x oversized skimmer).Will appreciate the input and, especially, the photos.
Kreeger1
KING LEAR
You could always add another pump to your asm g3 if it's not handling the waste load.
In my high flow tank I can always find a area that is not getting blasted by flow. I'd say my tubastreas like medium flow. I feed them mainly P.E. Mysis shrimp. But they react really fast to the nutramar ova. I highly recommend that over cyclopeeze. I no longer feed my tank cyclopeeze.
I'll need to look into the white fish stuff, I have no idea about it so I can't comment on it.
good luck
Erik
In my high flow tank I can always find a area that is not getting blasted by flow. I'd say my tubastreas like medium flow. I feed them mainly P.E. Mysis shrimp. But they react really fast to the nutramar ova. I highly recommend that over cyclopeeze. I no longer feed my tank cyclopeeze.
I'll need to look into the white fish stuff, I have no idea about it so I can't comment on it.
good luck
Erik
Link to evilervin post about coloration in relation to the feeding.
Another pump means recirculating modification?
If you can take a look at the ASM skimmer club my post and the answers, that it's likely related to frequent feeding and they have no experience with this.
Or recirculation mod should solve the problem anyway?
Regarding the feeding - the Nutramar ova and PE mysis are not available locally. I used pink Pacific plankton, krill and shrimp as a substitutes, they didn't helped with coloration.
Only young colonies are pinkish, the older colony lost salmon-pink shade within months after purchase, even being fed with chopped salmon (together with other food).
7. One more thing of concern: lateral growth of colony.
Mine is on bare bottom, moved slightly during cleaning, so it hadn't rock surface to expand onto. Now some polyps started facing downward and not able to feed.
How you are dealing with this problem? Fragging every year or letting it encrust the rock around it?
So far I raised one side by gluing a small rock below, but this is a temporary solution. Have to mount to a bigger surface later.
Another pump means recirculating modification?
If you can take a look at the ASM skimmer club my post and the answers, that it's likely related to frequent feeding and they have no experience with this.
Or recirculation mod should solve the problem anyway?
Regarding the feeding - the Nutramar ova and PE mysis are not available locally. I used pink Pacific plankton, krill and shrimp as a substitutes, they didn't helped with coloration.
Only young colonies are pinkish, the older colony lost salmon-pink shade within months after purchase, even being fed with chopped salmon (together with other food).
7. One more thing of concern: lateral growth of colony.
Mine is on bare bottom, moved slightly during cleaning, so it hadn't rock surface to expand onto. Now some polyps started facing downward and not able to feed.
How you are dealing with this problem? Fragging every year or letting it encrust the rock around it?
So far I raised one side by gluing a small rock below, but this is a temporary solution. Have to mount to a bigger surface later.
Kreeger1
KING LEAR
Yes, adding a recirculating pump would really help out. I'm going to mod my asm g4x with another pump don the road when I add more and larger fish.
With the growing down polyps I haven't had that "luck" yet. If it were me I would frag and trade with other reefers and maybe let a little encrust on the glass.
I haven't lost any color yet in my tubs so I can't help you there yet.
I bet in a few more months the nutramar product will be in Canada, untill then I would just contine what your doing as it seems to be working minus the intense coloration your looking for.
on a side note, picked up a new dendro last night, new pics coming soon
Erik
With the growing down polyps I haven't had that "luck" yet. If it were me I would frag and trade with other reefers and maybe let a little encrust on the glass.
I haven't lost any color yet in my tubs so I can't help you there yet.
I bet in a few more months the nutramar product will be in Canada, untill then I would just contine what your doing as it seems to be working minus the intense coloration your looking for.
on a side note, picked up a new dendro last night, new pics coming soon
Erik
currentking
New member
heres mine....
Erik, can you post photo of your already working sump setup in your tank built thread? Which worked well for NPC tank?
And how to fight overflowing or no skimming problem, and matching inflow-outflow in the baffled sump (I'm referring to ASM skimmer club link above). They are not familiar with this kind of feeding and non-photosynthetic people are hard to reach for particular advice. Can we move skimmer discussion there? It's slightly off topic here, and I really need improvement.
How long you have the sun coral, that it not covered the rock yet? No, no questioning your methods, only curious, what influences that. You see, if with my rare feeding it filled the rock in a little more, than year, I only can imagine how it grows with better or more frequent feeding.
Sorry folks, for this deviation from main topic, but it's related to general practices of NPC keeping
And how to fight overflowing or no skimming problem, and matching inflow-outflow in the baffled sump (I'm referring to ASM skimmer club link above). They are not familiar with this kind of feeding and non-photosynthetic people are hard to reach for particular advice. Can we move skimmer discussion there? It's slightly off topic here, and I really need improvement.
How long you have the sun coral, that it not covered the rock yet? No, no questioning your methods, only curious, what influences that. You see, if with my rare feeding it filled the rock in a little more, than year, I only can imagine how it grows with better or more frequent feeding.
Sorry folks, for this deviation from main topic, but it's related to general practices of NPC keeping
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