Snowflake ( Jigsaw )Clowns Breeding ??

oasis, i dont have a pair bec i personaly dont think they are that nice, at any price. the white pattern is not organzied and defined.

only the original snowflake clownfish is amazing. the babies ive seen are just not appealing to me. i personally like more defined patterns., ex. variants from the onyx pattern.
 
Hector.

unfortunately there is very limited information on them. several weeks ago , i assertively tried to research them also with little results.

you should document your pair as much as possible with info and pics so we can all learn.

as someone stated earlier. patience.
 
Guess I am going to do myself.....:) ....I had the same issue trying to frag my blue elegance coral there is no info. Yes I was succesful.

Hector
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6331433#post6331433 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by embryoguy
oceanarus,

i m leaning towards your theory also with respect to some of these "new" clowns being produced in captivity. i recently bought 6 "picasso" clowns and gave one to a friend. within the past few weeks, all 6 seem to act very diff.(swimming irregularly, pushed out gill flaps, "skirrly"). even though they are eating normally and appear very active. 1 of the 6 died, but the remaining 5 have not seemed to gain any weight , despite feeding them alot.

so maybe these "odd" clowns are genetically inferior. time will tell i guess with these snowflake/picasso clowns.
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6335064#post6335064 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by embryoguy
oasis, i dont have a pair bec i personaly dont think they are that nice, at any price. the white pattern is not organzied and defined.

only the original snowflake clownfish is amazing. the babies ive seen are just not appealing to me. i personally like more defined patterns., ex. variants from the onyx pattern.
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Are Picasso and Snowflakes not the same?? Anyone have pics of either of them?
 
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These are a friend of mines Snowflake's he bought them direct from the breeder I think. I dont remeber for sure though. They are almost 2 inches long now and very actively hosting the GSP's

here is his thread:http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=689929
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6335867#post6335867 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Rurouni Kenshin
Are Picasso and Snowflakes not the same?? Anyone have pics of either of them?
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No they are not the same. Picassos come from a WC male True Percula. Snowflakes are either an OcellarisXPercula hybrid or an Ocellaris bred at TMC in England. One would just have to look at the Co$t to tell the difference.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6335099#post6335099 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by OasisTF
Just wishing there was more info on this clowns

Hector
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Dude, you need to chill out here.

You are not going to find information on these fish, because there isn't any. The first we heard of these fish was less than 12 months ago and they are being produced by a single hatchery. Which I am sure is not jumping to spread the word on these.

You are not going to find information on their breeding as I don't think anyone in the hobby has had them long enough to have a breeding pair.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6335099#post6335099 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by OasisTF
How rare are this clown- Cant conprehend thousands of people on reefcentral and only a few less than 5 people have this clowns?

What is the offspring like? Guessing if no one knows I will have to find out myself-

Is it posible to breed them or they are like mules? keep getting conflicting stories.

Hector
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I will say it again, these fish are not rare. If you want rare research the clownfish from Lord Howe...
 
Dont want rare :) .. ... Only what I enjoy.... Even though rare sounds good to me to starts a breeding program ( maybe Idea )

Thanks for all the info everyone.

Hector
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6339834#post6339834 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by OasisTF
Dont want rare :) .. ... Only what I enjoy.... Even though rare sounds good to me to starts a breeding program ( maybe Idea )
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Bad idea. Rare more times than not equals "very hard" to "has never happened and been tried by the best there is".
 
Is there a way to test fish to find out if they are fertile - want make sure the clowns are not mules?

Thanks, for the heads up and info Jhardman

Hector
 
Listen. Just forget all you know about breeding/genetics/inter-species cross-overs and character selection.

They just don't seem to apply to fishes. "Mules" are mammals. Not fish.

As to tesing for fertility. That's simple. If they lay eggs and the eggs develop, then the fish are fertile. If you want 5 spawning pairs, set up 10. And get rid of the ones that don't produce. But, even then, that does not mean that those fish are infertile.

Maybe you should take a step back and take a breath. You are aiming Real High! Start off with a simple pair of Ocellaris. Get them breeding, try to rear them, learn from all your mistakes. And as you gain experience, you can move on to bigger challenges.

I'm afraid you are in for a big let down if you persue this.
 
Going to put them in the store display tanks as soon as I see them lay eggs- will start the breeding program on this clowns, just wanting to know if they are fertile, before starting.



Hector
 
Hi guys,

Amy here. All I want to add to this is it seems really odd to me that the pattern for snowflakes is always the same. Picassos have more varied (more interesting) patterns. And yet all the snowflakes look the same. That does not happen in the wild. So do you guys think they are culling alot of fish or what? I bet there are very few of these. So even if you get a pair to spawn i think few will look like their parents. But I'm still confused about this pattern that is always the same. I have never raised a batch of ocels or percs or anything else for that matter were the mis-bars were the same for the whole batch.


Amy
 
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