Snowflake/Percula baby pics-56K beware

FishnWishn

FishnWishn

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Huey, tried to PM you the pics but file was too big. Here are some of the pics. Sorry they are bad pics but I only have a video camera to take pics.

These are of the lone survivor from when a digital thermometer fell into the tank. It wasn't in the tank long but I lost over 150 fry at 2 weeks old.

8 Weeks old taken in a plastic cup because he will not stay still.
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In a 2 gal while cleaning out his 5 gal home.
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Rigid airline tubing for size comparison. He is actually longer but he has a transparent tail.
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The proud parents on their new spawn that should hatch next Tuesday. I don't plan on keeping anymore but might try one more hatch after I get back from Vacation just to see how many fry have some snowflake morphs and how many Percs.
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speechless :)))))))))))))

hope you dont mind, im going to save your pics and keep them in my clownfish library :)
 
this upcoming year should be very interesting for the clownfish hobby :) thanks to reefers like you dennis.

thanks again for sharing.
 
WOW...that is really sweet. i honestly think you should continue to raise the babies speciffically for the snowflake morph. i am also curious as to whether or not any black will develope between the 1st and 2nd bar and between the 2nd and 3rd bar. good luck

Mark
 
WOW... this thread took me by suprize! I was not even awair anyone had any spawning snowflakes!

You most certianly need to try to raise fry again OR find someone local that will take the eggs & do it for you.:thumbsup: :thumbsup: for you man!
 
Can you please clarify your terms?
You are intermixing "Snowflake" with "Percula".
The male looks like a "snowflake" A. ocellaris.
Is the female an A. ocellaris or an A. percula?
If the later, then the offspring would technically be hybrids.
 
Sorry, I just got lazy and put Snowflake/Percula baby instead of A. Ocellaris "Snowflake variant" X A. Percula hybrid larvae. I was assuming of course that everyone knows that a Snowflake is an A. Ocellaris (we think).
Yes, you are right. The Male is a "Snowflake" A. Ocellaris, and the female is a TB true A. Percula, and yes the offspring is a hybrid. That is the main reason I did not want to raise any more fry. Of course there are some that speculate that the Snowflake is a hybrid so if that was the case, any offspring they produced would technically be a hybrid. They have been laying eggs every 12-14 days since January 2nd. I was just curious as to how much the Snowflake genes would affect the offspring. I can't tell much with just one baby. This might have been the only one out of 150 that had snowflake markings. The rest could have looked like the hybrid "Percularis".
They both lost their true mates so I put them together. The female lost a fight with my Polymnus female and gave up her left eye. You can see the eye is just a socket in the picture. I wanted to keep the Snowflake a male in case something should happen to my other pair of Snowflakes, so I pair him with the female perc.

h2joe- I am also curious as to how much black there will be. Right now you can see a black outline on the trail end of the white patch. The lead end of the white patch has no black edge and is growing closer to the head band every week. The male snowflake has a black outline along all white areas. Even the gill plates and dorsal. Time will tell.

Jovreefer- I am actually waiting for my other "Snowflake" pair to spawn which is looking to be soon. I also have pairs of Black variant Ocellaris, Akindynos, WC True Percula, Polymnus, and a Nigripes that I am trying to pair up. So my plate is full at the moment. I have a local breeder about an hour away from me, but the weather here changes so much I don't want to risk the travel time with eggs or larvae. Like I also said before, I am not too keen on putting out hybrids. Had my fill of that raising Discus.
 
This pair Is in my 90 gal reef. the other pairs are in 40 gal breeders or 29 gal tanks. The fry are hatched in a 10 gal with 5 gal of water then moved to a 5 or 10 gal tank at day 7. I keep 3-10 gal rotifer tanks and feed IA. I have 3 Brine Shrimp hatcheries using E-Z hatch shell free eggs.
For feeding I start out with rots enriched with selcon 6hrs prior to feeding. At day 6 I feed enriched BBS along with Otohime-A 5 times a day. I discontinue the BBS around day 8-9 and may move up to Otohime-A/B1 4 times a day. I am currently feeding fry moved to 20 gal rearing tanks Otohime-B2/C1/C2, Cyclopeeze, F1, F2 each once a day.
For maintenance I scrape and vacuum the bottom every day. There is a lot of excess food. Every 2-3 days I change out and top off 2 gal of parent or fresh made water, sterilized. I usually siphon out 1 gal while cleaning. The 5-10 gal tanks are completely cleaned out once a month. Depending on the size of the hatch is when I decide to transfer them to a 20/29 gal tank for rearing. A sponge filter is added after 3 weeks. Rearing tanks are BB w/LR and HOB fuge. For lighting I don't use direct lighting over the tanks. My fish room has ceiling lamps on 4 rails that can be moved, rotated and individually turned off/on. Only displays and rearing tanks with anemonies have tank lights.

For all of those who have PM'd me and those thinking about it. Thank you, but I don't sell, I don't ship. I occasionally keep a hatch and trade them to my LFS for supplies, or to local reefers for frags. I have tried giving eggs away but so far nobody has gotten past day 5. Most of my rots/BBS go to feeding my reef. I just enjoy watching my tanks and knowing that I can keep my mini reef healthy through a cycle of life. This is my little piece of ocean away from back home in Hawaii.
 
LOL it has been a long vacation. Actually I had an extended 6week vacation and came home to a disaster with all of my tanks. I lost quite a lot of livestock. Corals and fish alike.
The good news is my Perc/Snowflake pair did survive as well as my lone survivor up till last week. Long story short he did not survive an introduction to a large female black var. Ocellaris.
I have some juvies and larvae from 2 hatches that I collected and I would say that at least 25-30% showed snowflake traits. Only a few had markings like the male.
I will get pics as soon as I complete the transfer of the babies to the new tanks. In the mean time here are some pics that Huey took of some that I sent him. Hope you don't mind me sharing the pics Huey.
My lone survivor that I showed at 8 weeks earlier in the thread. At about 6 mths when this pic was taken.
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Some of the babies I sent to Huey. These were hatched on Aug. 18, 2006
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I am sorry to hear about the tank disasters. What happened? Hope most of your clowns got through fine.
 
Had a power outage while I was gone. A circuit breaker blew when the power came back on and the person that was house sitting did not realize it until the next day and it was too late. I lost my Polymnus pair (they were huge), My female black Oc (also getting ready to spawn), My female Akindynos, and the nigripes. The snowflake/Perc pair, the hybrid, and the PNG Percs were in tanks upstairs on a different circuit so they did fine.
 
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