Something you don't see everyday!

[Maximus]

Sorry for your losses. Hopefully, the next hatch will be better.

 

[auem]

good luck for the next time...

 

[Sugar Magnolia]

Sorry for the loss. Hopefully the next batch makes it.

 

[waldend]

Kurt-

With this being a cooler water species I would be interested to hear what info you have found on temps for the larvae.

I wouldn't want to cause stress in the parents but could it be informational to keep a control group in a breeder basket in the broodstock tank in order to eliminate the possibility of handling/transfer related deaths. Food would be a problem but a few sacrificed for learning is a noble death.

 

[isseym328]

I'd say the increase in temp could be the culprit. I try to keep my tank at 75 or below for my temperate fishes (try to be around 73 actually). So with the fry I'd think you really have to keep the temp low.

I have a feeling when you come back you'll have greater success with the new batches

 

[landlord]

The first batch I tried at 73, basically didn't use a heater. Next batch (this last one) I tried with a heater. I am almost tempted to try the breeer basket just to see how long they will survive in the broodstock tank regardless of food. That would help eliminate some variables. However the lighting on that tank is about 240 watts of T5. I do not want to start messing with lighting schedules over that tank.

Honestly I believe that I am going to try and gather the batch laid last nast in 9 days (Friday the 18th) and use matched temp and water from broodstock tank with a blackened larval tank and a filter on the light over top of it to reduce the amount of lighting to see if that helps. Light sensitive has been thrown around by more than one person regarding this species so I need to rulle this in or out simply because it is going to bother me until I do.

But then there is some talk about better survival rates using lower temps in (I believe this has been done with McC's) so I've got lots of things to try.

Sad part is that if I am successful I will need to sacrifice the batch since I will be leaving 6 days after the scheduled hatch.

but information is key right?

Thanks for the encouragement guys.



Kurt

 

[WDLV]

I like your breeder basket idea best. If you can keep enough food in there to keep at least a few of them alive past day three, you'll have eliminated at least one variable.

 

[landlord]

Not the best photo quality, but here is one of my fellas at 19-20 days old. Nice wide head band, good tail band. So far nothing in the middle but a bright white dorsal fin :lol:

I have my fingers cross that it will develop and maybe one of the nine other tankmates will show some improvement. Still have plenty of batches to work with though...

Take Care

Kurt

 

[Doni]

Congrats Kurt! Great work :thumbsup:

 

[landlord]

Thank you kindly Doni.

I have my fingers and toes crossed that the middle bar will fill in. If not, it is at least symmetrical on both sides :lol:

Kurt

 

[Sugar Magnolia]

OMG!! So tiny and cute! Fingers crossed for you!

 

[landlord]

My wife says she's going to "Gobble him up, he's so darn cute..."

..she's no longer allowed in the fish room :lol:

Thank you very much for the good thoughts!

Kurt

 

[isseym328]

Welcome back from your vacation. I'm sure the middle bar will fill in once it's at least a juv. Do you have a pic of all 10 babies? Would love to see that!

 

[landlord]

Welcome back from your vacation. I'm sure the middle bar will fill in once it's at least a juv. Do you have a pic of all 10 babies? Would love to see that!

I sure hope so. I'll work on more pictures.

 

[auem]

yupii...!!!...congrats....:beer:
show us all pictures....:bounce1:

 

[clowns101]

Good luck with them!Every thing looks like its going well!Have you seen any full bars in your batches?

 

[landlord]

Good luck with them!Every thing looks like its going well!Have you seen any full bars in your batches?

Not yet but this is the longest I had any of them survive. Very very sensitive to lighting, it seems. In any case I got home to find another with a beautiful full head bar, but nothing in the middle. Gonna have to hunt down some threads on MOFIB from another guy who had them to see if he reported anything similar. I'm pretty sure he made no mention of barring though.

If it comes in later like perc/occ I believe, there might be some hope yet.

Kurt

 

[clowns101]

Not yet but this is the longest I had any of them survive. Very very sensitive to lighting, it seems. In any case I got home to find another with a beautiful full head bar, but nothing in the middle. Gonna have to hunt down some threads on MOFIB from another guy who had them to see if he reported anything similar. I'm pretty sure he made no mention of barring though.

If it comes in later like perc/occ I believe, there might be some hope yet.

Kurt

There are quite a few thread on MOFIB.Most of the Latz produce captivly are mis-barred.Good luck.Even a couple of the pro breeders are having problems with the full barring.

 

[landlord]

I been a member over there for awhile. With only 6 or 7 known successful laying pairs I would hazard a guess that there's a learning curve to overcome for sure.

 

[clowns101]

I been a member over there for awhile. With only 6 or 7 known successful laying pairs I would hazard a guess that there's a learning curve to overcome for sure.

Oh Ya I know.The question is why are we gettign Mis-bars.Is it waster quality?We dont know.Is it the food?We dont know.There is alot to be learned about these fish as we are rasing them.