Sonny's Rimless Shallow Reef.
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Hi Sonny,
I've been dosing vodka and MB7 in my tank for a month and a half. It definitely looks better. But I still had hair algae, so I thought maybe I wasn't dosing enough MB7. So I did increase the amount of drops to 12 per day. I have a rough 70-80 net gallons.
Last week I started to notice what I thought was cyno bacteria. I was at 3.6ml of vodka at the time. So I stop dosing the vodka this past Sunday and increased my MB7 levels to the (High-nutrient levels ~ 3 capfulls). One last thing I split those levels into two doses, one morning and one night.
What you see in the pics below is in the front right corner of my tank. It comes out during the day but seems to go away towards the evening (even with all my lights still on). I believe someone posted that you can get a black film algae if you dose too much MB7. It looks more black than red to me. Now I'm not sure if it's cyno (I hope you or anyone else can confirm it, because I actually have never seen it in my tank).
Any ideas?
Sorry but I have to post a FTS to show you what your thread has helped accomplish! Now I just need to do my interceptor treatment, ERRR!
I've been dosing vodka and MB7 in my tank for a month and a half. It definitely looks better. But I still had hair algae, so I thought maybe I wasn't dosing enough MB7. So I did increase the amount of drops to 12 per day. I have a rough 70-80 net gallons.
Last week I started to notice what I thought was cyno bacteria. I was at 3.6ml of vodka at the time. So I stop dosing the vodka this past Sunday and increased my MB7 levels to the (High-nutrient levels ~ 3 capfulls). One last thing I split those levels into two doses, one morning and one night.
What you see in the pics below is in the front right corner of my tank. It comes out during the day but seems to go away towards the evening (even with all my lights still on). I believe someone posted that you can get a black film algae if you dose too much MB7. It looks more black than red to me. Now I'm not sure if it's cyno (I hope you or anyone else can confirm it, because I actually have never seen it in my tank).
Any ideas?
Sorry but I have to post a FTS to show you what your thread has helped accomplish! Now I just need to do my interceptor treatment, ERRR!
trueblackpercula
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Sonny I sent you a PM
scaryperson27
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Then let it come down naturally. If you are getting good growth in your corals, it should come down within a couple of weeks.
scaryperson27
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Do you dose Strontium, AA, MB7 and everything else at the same time? I have been doing this so that I don't have to turn the skimmer off more than once per day. I'm not sure if it is a good idea though.
SunnyX
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:lol: Ok, maybe my corals are growing faster then yours.
When you run into and issue like you have, going back to the beginning is always the best thing to do. You could just wait a few days and not dose, this way your corals will bring down the CA and ALK. Once the levels are normal again then you can start up with dosing as usual.
Concerning the Zeostart, I have never used it but dont see how it could be any different/better then vodka,sugar, or vinegar. I would rather save money and use a cheaper alternative. The more money you save on addivtives, the more money you can spend on corals.
Joel A
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I hear you on that one, but my thinking is that if you ask a question about using Vodka on the zeovit forum or you ask a "zeohead" they would say you really shouldn't... ??
Maybe that's just a way to get you to buy their product? I've used it before, and obviously i haven't done any analysis of it, but it smells just like vinegar
SunnyX
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Re: help please!
Re: help please!
Drops in PH is due to the bacteria rapidly multiplying and eating up the available O2. Unless you are running no skimmer at all or an inadequate one you should not have a large drop in PH when starting up MB7.
To solve the current issue I would place an airline into the tank connected to an air pump. Also, placing a powerhead pointed towards the surface will help as well.
Is your skimmer and water movement sufficient in your system?
Re: help please!
Drops in PH is due to the bacteria rapidly multiplying and eating up the available O2. Unless you are running no skimmer at all or an inadequate one you should not have a large drop in PH when starting up MB7.
To solve the current issue I would place an airline into the tank connected to an air pump. Also, placing a powerhead pointed towards the surface will help as well.
Is your skimmer and water movement sufficient in your system?
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SunnyX
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15526790#post15526790 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by nemeth27
Hi Sonny,
I've been dosing vodka and MB7 in my tank for a month and a half. It definitely looks better. But I still had hair algae, so I thought maybe I wasn't dosing enough MB7. So I did increase the amount of drops to 12 per day. I have a rough 70-80 net gallons.
Last week I started to notice what I thought was cyno bacteria. I was at 3.6ml of vodka at the time. So I stop dosing the vodka this past Sunday and increased my MB7 levels to the (High-nutrient levels ~ 3 capfulls). One last thing I split those levels into two doses, one morning and one night.
What you see in the pics below is in the front right corner of my tank. It comes out during the day but seems to go away towards the evening (even with all my lights still on). I believe someone posted that you can get a black film algae if you dose too much MB7. It looks more black than red to me. Now I'm not sure if it's cyno (I hope you or anyone else can confirm it, because I actually have never seen it in my tank).
Any ideas?
Sorry but I have to post a FTS to show you what your thread has helped accomplish! Now I just need to do my interceptor treatment, ERRR!
Hello,
your system is look great. :thumbsup:
I wouldn't worry too much about that small patch. I get them when I overdose my MB7. They come and go and are a good indicator of when to scale back on MB7.
Keep up the good work.
trueblackpercula
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Ok I just can't keep up Sonny with all the additives and times. Can you please post a Recap if what your dosing, when and how much. The only reason is I am trying to mimic your dosing so I can have a beautiful reef tank like yours some day.
Thanks
Michael Anthony
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Michael Anthony
SunnyX
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http://www.rimlessreef.com/1/post/2009/07/updated-dosing-list.html
After water displacement I figure the entire system volume is 140-150gl total.
Daily
CA: 110ML
ALK: 110ML
Strontium: 1 Teaspoon
Lugols: 1 drop
MB7: 14 drops
Vodka(80 proof): 2ml
Weekly
MG: 110ML
AA's: 6 drops(twice a week)
Monthly
30gl Water change Reef Crystals
Carbon replaced (3-4 cups in a mesh bag)
stratos21ss
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Cool, understood...thnks for the info. Being new at reefing I didn't realize I was starving stuff for a long time via ulns..now have it under control. I have a 120g, but only have 2 fish in it still..I think that some more fish to feed would help me balance it out further. Been running the Neozeo system for 6 weeks now and liking it. I am at 2ml of the AAs per day currently...lot of the corals I messed up in the past are on the upswing.
Appreciate your thread/methods..your leading edge tank keeps looking better and better.
_Matt
SunnyX
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15529157#post15529157 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by nemeth27
Thanks Sonny!
I guess it's back to dosing vodka! I do have one more question. Do you think I need to stop vodka dosing while doing the 3 week interceptor treatment?
That's what I get for not dipping my frags!!!
Thanks!
Matt
I would stop the vodka and MB7 when dosing the interceptor, at least for a couple days. I am not sure why you would need to dose interceptor for three weeks. Whenever I have dosed my system with it I did it only one time and it worked great. I usually treat the system for 6 hours and then conduct a 40gl water change followed by 6 cups of carbon.
Is your infestation that severe that you need to conduct a three week treatment?
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