SPS Dominated 47G Reef

Wow mate, those acros are beautiful and your photo skills just blow me away. :thumbsup: I can really see the deeper saturation of the pink pigments in the pic below - the milli you're baby sitting for me........... :p

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The blue tipped tort in the first pic is very similar in tip color to one of my acros that's in low/med light, i like that blue the most of all the blue pigments. It makes the corallites really pop and catch your eye. I'm glad you said that green deepwater has blue tips otherwise i was going to say something quite rude about that acro lol.
The metallic green with the blue tips is nice and i like that shot showing the no mans land between the rival acros. That last one you like the most sounds really cool, it's impossible sometimes to capture the subtle colors and shimmer that some acros display under strong point source lighting but i know exactly what you mean in your description :thumbsup:

About the brown outs. It's not the water or you wouldn't be seeing the beautiful colors on the acros you posted pics of. I'm assuming you have a few turds so chances are it's just a PAR and or spectrum issue. If you just had one brown one i'd say give it away who cares but i think you said you had a few so here's a few ideas. The T5's aren't supplemental they are required to make the ATI hybrid the kick arse unit it is. I would not have good colors on everything in my tank if i was only running the 400W Radium because i tried years ago. Colors always improved when i ran overdriven T8 actinics with an icecap ballast and now i can use T5's i'm rapt. The brown acros might be in spots receiving too much LED and not enough B+ etc to get the spectrum close to spot on. My SSC has 3 distinct color morphs all in the one tank due to diff intensity and also diff spectrum from the placement. They can also be in too low light - any time i see an acro brown with just a few tips struggling to be blue it's always the intensity and higher light does the trick.
I'd frag a tip off every turd and glue it down in higher light and where it receives a good mix of both LED and your T5's. Frags will generally start encrusting a lot quicker than a whole piece will show signs of coming back to life and the best part is that in the majority of cases the encrusting growth edge displays pigments before the tips wake up so you can see what's to come sooner. I'm sure you've seen acros with the same tip colors also on the new encrusting edges of the same piece.
If you're game you can do the express route by nuking the acro with light for a couple of days to stress it into shedding a lot of zoa in order to slow the light absorption and then drop it to medium light and let it do its thing. Don't do that to a fresh cut frag btw or you'll likely kill it.
You have lots of options before you even think about dumping those brown outs mate so take the opportunity to try a few different things - they're turds after all so what's to lose. At worst they'll turn green........... i've never seen a turd fail to show some color return within a month of finding the spot it likes so spread them around and see what they do. :thumbsup:
The extra rock in the sump is a great idea for your bio filtration especially now you're feeding more.
Sorry for the long post again and remember these are just my opinions from my experiences, i'm no expert on SPS i'm just giving you some ideas to mull over rather than sitting there letting those turds give you the acro finger.......:reading:

It goes without saying that we all expect to see lots of before and after pics of the acros coloring up over the next few months mate :)
 
Awesome pics, Sahin :thumbsup:, you really take fantastic photos :thumbsup:

I really like the green "deepwater" acro, and the pink milie, looks great :)

I too, have similar problems, with a few turds, that I know are not turds....:headwally:, so thanks Biggles, for the info :thumbsup:
 
Looks great sahin!!
Kinda hard to believe you have some brown corals :)

Everything looks great I really like the deep water with the purple tips
I recently picked up something like that It's still pretty small but has ton
Of potential. Over all it looks great buddy

Btw you should snap some pics of your "brown turds" now and compare in a few months
 
Wow mate, those acros are beautiful and your photo skills just blow me away. :thumbsup: I can really see the deeper saturation of the pink pigments in the pic below - the milli you're baby sitting for me........... :p

DSC_1150_zpsc2c6cc57.jpg


The blue tipped tort in the first pic is very similar in tip color to one of my acros that's in low/med light, i like that blue the most of all the blue pigments. It makes the corallites really pop and catch your eye. I'm glad you said that green deepwater has blue tips otherwise i was going to say something quite rude about that acro lol.
The metallic green with the blue tips is nice and i like that shot showing the no mans land between the rival acros. That last one you like the most sounds really cool, it's impossible sometimes to capture the subtle colors and shimmer that some acros display under strong point source lighting but i know exactly what you mean in your description :thumbsup:

About the brown outs. It's not the water or you wouldn't be seeing the beautiful colors on the acros you posted pics of. I'm assuming you have a few turds so chances are it's just a PAR and or spectrum issue. If you just had one brown one i'd say give it away who cares but i think you said you had a few so here's a few ideas. The T5's aren't supplemental they are required to make the ATI hybrid the kick arse unit it is. I would not have good colors on everything in my tank if i was only running the 400W Radium because i tried years ago. Colors always improved when i ran overdriven T8 actinics with an icecap ballast and now i can use T5's i'm rapt. The brown acros might be in spots receiving too much LED and not enough B+ etc to get the spectrum close to spot on. My SSC has 3 distinct color morphs all in the one tank due to diff intensity and also diff spectrum from the placement. They can also be in too low light - any time i see an acro brown with just a few tips struggling to be blue it's always the intensity and higher light does the trick.
I'd frag a tip off every turd and glue it down in higher light and where it receives a good mix of both LED and your T5's. Frags will generally start encrusting a lot quicker than a whole piece will show signs of coming back to life and the best part is that in the majority of cases the encrusting growth edge displays pigments before the tips wake up so you can see what's to come sooner. I'm sure you've seen acros with the same tip colors also on the new encrusting edges of the same piece.
If you're game you can do the express route by nuking the acro with light for a couple of days to stress it into shedding a lot of zoa in order to slow the light absorption and then drop it to medium light and let it do its thing. Don't do that to a fresh cut frag btw or you'll likely kill it.
You have lots of options before you even think about dumping those brown outs mate so take the opportunity to try a few different things - they're turds after all so what's to lose. At worst they'll turn green........... i've never seen a turd fail to show some color return within a month of finding the spot it likes so spread them around and see what they do. :thumbsup:
The extra rock in the sump is a great idea for your bio filtration especially now you're feeding more.
Sorry for the long post again and remember these are just my opinions from my experiences, i'm no expert on SPS i'm just giving you some ideas to mull over rather than sitting there letting those turds give you the acro finger.......:reading:

It goes without saying that we all expect to see lots of before and after pics of the acros coloring up over the next few months mate :)

Many thanks for all the info mate. I will try out one or two of the ideas. As always mate, your knowledge and experience is much appreciated. And thanks for taking the time out of your day/night to write all this. :)
 
Looking great Sahin! Fantastic photos and there is nothing wrong with those colours! I find some corals like the water a bit more nutrient rich, and others like the water a bit more nutrient poor, in terms of finding the sweet spot for optimal colour. To get the balance just right, where all corals are looking their best, requires finding that fine line in between, and ensuring everything is getting optimal colour and flow at the same time. Obviously things are working with the pieces you posted pics of! That one coral that is battling with your metallic green coral with blue tips (I have one very similar) kinda looks like RR Orange Passion, looks like a heck of a piece.

All the best in 2014!
 
Looking great Sahin! Fantastic photos and there is nothing wrong with those colours! I find some corals like the water a bit more nutrient rich, and others like the water a bit more nutrient poor, in terms of finding the sweet spot for optimal colour. To get the balance just right, where all corals are looking their best, requires finding that fine line in between, and ensuring everything is getting optimal colour and flow at the same time. Obviously things are working with the pieces you posted pics of! That one coral that is battling with your metallic green coral with blue tips (I have one very similar) kinda looks like RR Orange Passion, looks like a heck of a piece.

All the best in 2014!

Thanks dude. Yeah, I see what you are saying. I'm going to keep things going as they are, maybe try one or two small things out. Being SPS, some take upto 6months to a year sometimes to colour up. I will just be patient.

That Reefraft lookalike you mention, when I got it looked a LOT like the RRR Orange Passion. The polyps were orange. But due to a battle with high PO4 and then very low nutrients, the coral has changed a fair bit. Still a nice piece and the one that stands out most when looking at my tank.
 
Awesome pics, Sahin :thumbsup:, you really take fantastic photos :thumbsup:

I really like the green "deepwater" acro, and the pink milie, looks great :)

I too, have similar problems, with a few turds, that I know are not turds....:headwally:, so thanks Biggles, for the info :thumbsup:

Thanks dude. The Pink Millepora is one of my fav too. I like the green ones...so long as they have another colour too. :lolspin:

2014 has to be the year both of us deal with the SPS turds in our tanks and get them coloured up! :angryfire:
 
Sahin,

I am beginning to think that you suffer from OCD because I frankly cannot see what is wrong with the colouration of your corals.

All the photos you showed us look excellent unless there are some others we have not yet seen. :mixed:

You would desire better colouration if you owned my tank:

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Thanks dude. The Pink Millepora is one of my fav too. I like the green ones...so long as they have another colour too. :lolspin:

2014 has to be the year both of us deal with the SPS turds in our tanks and get them coloured up! :angryfire:

Lol, I usually have trouble keeping colours on Millies, no idea why. I have a couple of the "exotic" ones, but you wouldn't know it by looking at it. They're just brown :(.

This better be our year, have spent too much time and money to muck it up now!! :thumbsup:

Nice scape Discus, I like the scape a lot :thumbsup:
 
Alright...since I am in a posting photos mode...I might as well post some more. After this I wont be posting any more until the brown ones colour up. Some of these photos are a bit grainy because I accidently switched the ISO up too much and now have lots of NOISE in the photos. Cant be bothered to go back and take the shots again :lol:

First up is my Blue/Green Maxima Clam. I got this VERY small. From top down it looks blue with a hint of green. From front view of tank it looks blue:
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BLUE POLYPS!!! This is one of the turds...look at all that BROWN!:angryfire: But recently I threatened to chuck it out the tank...and look...its now got these blue see-through polyps:
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I am hoping this piece colours up like my Hot Pink Millepora. This piece has blue tips with wine red base. Its a wild piece and has been BROWN for nearly a year. Kind of slow growing too. Polyps are a light teal colour:
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This one I posted on the first page. Excuse the glare from the bare bottom.
Its got these lovely blue tips, but the main body is still brown:
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And lastly, this one I also posted on the first page under the previous lighting. Under the new lighting it lost a lot of the green in the body, but the blue tips have intensified in colour...actually, the deeper colour might be due to the increased feeding...not 100%. It sits directly underneath my Rose Millepora and the Hot Pink Millopora. Its growing on a ledge and has started to table. The blue tips are a lot more Royal Blue, but my camera never picks up any purple tones...:
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Nice photos and corals sahin!Really love them!

I'm sure you will get the colors you are waiting for!:beer:
For the record....personally i think they are very nice:thumbsup:
 

You were right to keep these, they're all winners for sure :thumbsup:. Well, any acro with blue polyps is a winner in my book at least :).

I'm most interested in the one above, since I have a similar looking piece, and I know it was full lavender/blue before my "experiments". So please share your results :thumbsup:
 
Sahin,

I am beginning to think that you suffer from OCD because I frankly cannot see what is wrong with the colouration of your corals.

All the photos you showed us look excellent unless there are some others we have not yet seen. :mixed:

You can tell a reefer is good at keeping SPS when he whinges about colors on his colorful acros lol - those last pics are awesome as usual mate and i love that last one, ' orange passion' ? Is this a bloody SPS forum or are we discussing lipstick colors that you and Bello wear......... :love1:
I do see what you're saying in regards to what you'd like to see develop color wise but you certainly have things on the right track with your tank now. Your acros all look super healthy and colors are going to just get better and better, as jroovers wisely pointed out it's a matter of fine tuning more than anything now, be it placement, flow or whatever. Don't be afraid to make a small frag of anything that reaches a point color wise that you feel could be better and try it in a different spot. Years ago i thought the higher the light the better the colors would be - totally wrong as i discovered over time lol.
I'm sure you can find another acro worth showing us.......... no sneaky crap like bloody Bello gets up to all the time. :hammer::D
 
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