SPS PREADATORS Red bugs, AEFW's ,Monti nudis and Sea spiders. Pictures Inside

[melev]

AEFW images

AEFW images

Bite marks:

Flatworm images:

This one is 3mm long.

AEFW eggs:

and this one is from Arconom:

 

[clkwrk]

Thx :thumbsup:

 

[Serioussnaps]

let me see the pics of the AEFW eggs so i know what to watch out for

Also...anyone got a good place to buy TMPCC?? Do you consider this to be adequate at killing flatworms?? and at the very least as a prophylactic dip on all acros incoming to a system

 

[Stoney Mahony]

Heres mine:

Half eaten by AEFW's and covered in RB's:

Eggs:

AEFW's:

 

[Stoney Mahony]

Death!:smokin:

 

[clkwrk]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8053147#post8053147 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Serioussnaps
let me see the pics of the AEFW eggs so i know what to watch out for

Also...anyone got a good place to buy TMPCC?? Do you consider this to be adequate at killing flatworms?? and at the very least as a prophylactic dip on all acros incoming to a system

They are the lil brown circles clustered together There are a few pictures of them on this page.

 

[melev]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8053147#post8053147 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Serioussnaps
let me see the pics of the AEFW eggs so i know what to watch out for

Scroll up. The bottom two pictures are the eggs in my post.

 

["Umm fish?"]

 

[easttn]

Does anyone believe RBs eat AEFW before they enter the last stage of their life and are capable of laying eggs? What were the RBs doing on the coral? In my tank they flocked to the same pieces as the worms.

 

[Serioussnaps]

they flocked to the coral probably because it was weak and made an easy target...the FW's knew the same thing....they werent going because of each other...

kind of like vultures and hyenas....they dont go to the same carcass to eat each other but to eat the carcass

 

[Serioussnaps]

Hey guys I appreciate the postings of the egg pictures....very handy...

man i had kept acros a couple years back but very minimally and now that my 55 is gonna be strictly acros this gives me the heebeegeebies...

I am awful surprised that Interceptor wont kill AEFW's....maybe at higher doses???? then again the proper doses of heartworm meds to kill AEFW's would likely kill the coral as well...just a thought anyone tryed it...after all of this it makes me want to get a QT rather than just prophylactic dips on incomers

 

[Serioussnaps]

another thought...

thanks for this thread clkwrk...i was in the LFS yesterday and was about to buy 2 very nice Acros....they looked extremely healthy...had been in the store for a week...colors were awesome and no signs of any parasites...but I ask the LFS young employee if he had bought anything out of the tanks recently and he unknowingly said he bought a large yuma rock out of the same holding tank and he had FW's all over his tank in a week....this was likely not AEFW's but nevertheless he cost the store a $200 purchase...i ran...fast LOL

 

[easttn]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8065168#post8065168 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Serioussnaps
they flocked to the coral probably because it was weak and made an easy target...the FW's knew the same thing....they werent going because of each other...

I do not believe this is correct. AEFW are prolific in tanks with mature healthy specimens.

Can someone post a pic with RB and AEFW on the same coral? FW eggs and RBs would be better, at least I'd stop the controversy in my head.

 

[gflat65]

I see where you are coming from, Charles. There may be some sort of link given that so many have treated for RB's and then found AEFW's (I did). That's not to say it has to happen this way (at this point, it is difficult to speak in absoultes, as one person may experience something different from another), but if we better understood the relationship, we could start to rule out a few possibilities or find another good theory to start trying to prove or disprove... One intersting observation I've made is that none of my mille's were attacked by AEFW's (despite mille's being one of their favorites from most other accounts), but they weren't attacked by RB's, either. My tenius' was the first to show signs of RB's, but weren't attacked by AEFW's, either. Many of my other corals that had RB's also got AEFW's, where many that were attacked by RB's, were also attacked by AEFW's (valida's, nana's, cerealis, efflo, etc.). Not sure where that puts this response in the argument, but...

 

[trueblackpercula]

Maybe people should post were they are getting there Sps from. It sounds like people with red bugs may be getting them from the same source.
Michael

 

[madnav87]

does anyone know anything about acro-eating nudibranchs....if they exist, what color they are, etc.
I saw a small white nudi on some millepora, and then the next day, all the flesh was gone

 

[madnav87]

does anyone know anything about acro-eating nudibranchs....if they exist, what color they are, etc.
I saw a small white nudi on some millepora, and then the next day, all the flesh was gone

 

[trueblackpercula]

madnav87
look on page 2

 

[Chicago]

menard...that black crab looks familiar. trigger food??

.. i am still hunting his brothers down in the early am hours... stabbed one the other night... but one got away to live another day...

 

[bajabum]

I would suggest a list of biological agents be made. I don't worry about pests, but I hace 15 10 gallon aquariums with various biological agents, pest eating gorilla cages. There are folks out there that manage big operations that know the biological agents to use. Here are a few:
Orange fire worm (not available in the trade)- Nudibranchs spiders, most things that are slow (not sure on Zoa nudies)
Basselet (not available in the trade) : any bug they can see move
Dragonface Pipe Fish : red bug and other small critters on coral
Fresh Crushed Garlic : Ick, flatworms and other

Fresh water dip especially for flatworms
High salinity : removes most mobile creatures from rock.

I request small frags so I can inspect for EGGS. The problem with relying on drugs is you have use it in isolation. Biological solutions have more flexibility. I should go into the pest control rental bussines, but I am not in Phoenix. I am compiling a list of Biological agents that can be used. If you know of any pm them to me.