Starting my propogation business...
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benjaminspades
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That is pretty awesome of you. I was hoping to start something like this in california. Would you be able to give me some pointers?
jimmy frag
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if your looking for pointers on a prop system you are following the wrong thread.
benjaminspades
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Sorry about that I am a bit new here. Where should I go? I'll private message you so that I wont derail this thread any.
Jeremy Blaze
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The busy season is coming up, are you ready?
venom550pm
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what's going on the OP hasn't posted since June......
jimmy frag
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its been quite obvious since the begining hasnt it ?
dave willmore
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Now, now, Jimmy. Don't stop giving the benefit of the doubt, even if you are a little bit of a skeptic. I am too. I started building my own ultimate system 2 years ago this month, and I swore the whole thing wouldn't take more than a few months and a few thousand dollars. Now it's 2 years and who knows how many thousands of dollars later and I still don't have the glass in yet! So keep allowing time. There has never been a construction project finished on time by a first timer.
Jeremy Blaze
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Any news?
freetareef
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zzz...zzz...zzz...
Diamond Dave
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Doh
Jeremy Blaze
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Like so many other "start up" reef businesses.
There a building somewhere full of salt creep and not much else.
There a building somewhere full of salt creep and not much else.
dave willmore
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It is human nature to want to please other people by reporting just the good news. This is especially true of bright and ambitious young people. Heck, I am getting pretty long in the tooth and I still have a tendency to please people with good news and not tell them the bad. So it's not anyone's fault if a business is slow getting started, or non-started as the case may be.
Jeremy Blaze
Former Reef Addict
^ I understand that.
I have talked with so many people over the years that start up a fish business only to crash soon after.
If one is to go out and get funding for a project and not have opened shop two years latter, chances are they are not going to, and have some very upset creditors.
This is a tough buisiness to start up, and the fincancing alone is far grreater then most imagine, not too mention the time and labor invested.
I hope the op has got up and running and is making money to cover the expenses of such an observation, but his ignoring of the thread leads me to believe he has folded.
In fact, the OP was here reading this thread today.
I have talked with so many people over the years that start up a fish business only to crash soon after.
If one is to go out and get funding for a project and not have opened shop two years latter, chances are they are not going to, and have some very upset creditors.
This is a tough buisiness to start up, and the fincancing alone is far grreater then most imagine, not too mention the time and labor invested.
I hope the op has got up and running and is making money to cover the expenses of such an observation, but his ignoring of the thread leads me to believe he has folded.
In fact, the OP was here reading this thread today.
chewitback
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Hello all. Yeah, I felll off the grid there for a while. Here is a brief update of my endeavors:
1) got a new job about 2 years ago. While it shows great promise in providing a great income over the next few years, its been very time consuming. Upside is that it has helped me network with some great real estate moguls, and they introduced me to some great cheap labor. which brings me to #2.
2) New roof! I got a guy who really knows his stuff to set me up with a roof for next to nothing, in feb of 2013. No leaks!
3) I schmoozed my mason friend to help put a drain in the floor, then got my pllummber friend to help hook it all up!
4) figured out the most inexpensive way to insulate and vapor barrier the walls was rolled insulation and barn siding (sheet metal) with bright white primer paint caulked and sealed to make the vapor barrier. Yes, I looked into tons of options for several months, this one makes the most sense without killing my wallet.
5) we had a few warm patches this fall that gave me the opportunity to do some concrete work on the garage. Leveled the tail end of the floor so water is more easily guided into the drain. Works great! Also patched up some spots under where the double doors used to be. They, by the way, have since been replaced with the insulated overhead garage door!
6) a few months ago we had a tornado whisk by; while it didn't touch down, it did manage to destroy the roof on the main building where i live (built brick to brick to the garage). Ive had to have my roof guy come out to replace that, as well as finding a great drywall guy to replace all the damages from the leaks, due to lack of roof.
7) The next step is epoxying the floor. Again it becomes a temperature hold up. The floor must be 55 degrees (F), with an ambient air temp of 60(F) for the floor epoxy to cure. This leads to some issues, given how freaking cold it is outside and I don't have that gas heater installed yet.
8) so here is the plan moving forward: put up the sheet metal on the ceiling (we are blowing insulation into the "attic" area, and that can be done around the same time), and have the gas heater installed. Then epoxy this floor with the 4 cases of epoxy kits i purchased -- plus about 6 bags of gripping grit so the whole floor is seriously a no-slick zone -- and let it cure. Then we add a wood frame "balloon wall" on the south brick wall, which will allow us to place insulation against that wall, and give us something for the sheet metal to be attached to. Caulk and seal all of that, and the east and west walls (which are small), and all that is left is running the electrical, moving in the 2 cisterns and the tanks, and then running and attaching the air and water lines along the walls. There are a few minor other purchases that need to be made, but the light at the end of the tunnel can be seen! In other news, I also met the love of my life who LOVES the idea of this whole operation and is insanely supportive and helps out any way she can when I work on the building.
9) i'm not sure if i mentioned it earlier or not, but I also took on a business partner, officially. He is someone I can trust, is an experienced business owner (has been running one for 17 years now), has basic knowledge of coral and reef keeping (but none of the bad habits and wrong ideas that develop with keeping coral as a hobbyist), and will be a running active part of this operation, not just a financier. All in all, things are really on the Up and U. I also have been asked by someone to start a side biz with them making and selling my own coral food -- the same food i previously mentioned in the thread that I make for my own corals. Right now it is just in the idea phase, but he wants to start something so we have been tossing around that idea.
So there is a brief update of what has transpired over the past 2 years or so. Pictures will be up when I have some free time to take and post some. shouldn't be too long.
1) got a new job about 2 years ago. While it shows great promise in providing a great income over the next few years, its been very time consuming. Upside is that it has helped me network with some great real estate moguls, and they introduced me to some great cheap labor. which brings me to #2.
2) New roof! I got a guy who really knows his stuff to set me up with a roof for next to nothing, in feb of 2013. No leaks!
3) I schmoozed my mason friend to help put a drain in the floor, then got my pllummber friend to help hook it all up!
4) figured out the most inexpensive way to insulate and vapor barrier the walls was rolled insulation and barn siding (sheet metal) with bright white primer paint caulked and sealed to make the vapor barrier. Yes, I looked into tons of options for several months, this one makes the most sense without killing my wallet.
5) we had a few warm patches this fall that gave me the opportunity to do some concrete work on the garage. Leveled the tail end of the floor so water is more easily guided into the drain. Works great! Also patched up some spots under where the double doors used to be. They, by the way, have since been replaced with the insulated overhead garage door!
6) a few months ago we had a tornado whisk by; while it didn't touch down, it did manage to destroy the roof on the main building where i live (built brick to brick to the garage). Ive had to have my roof guy come out to replace that, as well as finding a great drywall guy to replace all the damages from the leaks, due to lack of roof.
7) The next step is epoxying the floor. Again it becomes a temperature hold up. The floor must be 55 degrees (F), with an ambient air temp of 60(F) for the floor epoxy to cure. This leads to some issues, given how freaking cold it is outside and I don't have that gas heater installed yet.
8) so here is the plan moving forward: put up the sheet metal on the ceiling (we are blowing insulation into the "attic" area, and that can be done around the same time), and have the gas heater installed. Then epoxy this floor with the 4 cases of epoxy kits i purchased -- plus about 6 bags of gripping grit so the whole floor is seriously a no-slick zone -- and let it cure. Then we add a wood frame "balloon wall" on the south brick wall, which will allow us to place insulation against that wall, and give us something for the sheet metal to be attached to. Caulk and seal all of that, and the east and west walls (which are small), and all that is left is running the electrical, moving in the 2 cisterns and the tanks, and then running and attaching the air and water lines along the walls. There are a few minor other purchases that need to be made, but the light at the end of the tunnel can be seen! In other news, I also met the love of my life who LOVES the idea of this whole operation and is insanely supportive and helps out any way she can when I work on the building.
9) i'm not sure if i mentioned it earlier or not, but I also took on a business partner, officially. He is someone I can trust, is an experienced business owner (has been running one for 17 years now), has basic knowledge of coral and reef keeping (but none of the bad habits and wrong ideas that develop with keeping coral as a hobbyist), and will be a running active part of this operation, not just a financier. All in all, things are really on the Up and U. I also have been asked by someone to start a side biz with them making and selling my own coral food -- the same food i previously mentioned in the thread that I make for my own corals. Right now it is just in the idea phase, but he wants to start something so we have been tossing around that idea.
So there is a brief update of what has transpired over the past 2 years or so. Pictures will be up when I have some free time to take and post some. shouldn't be too long.
chewitback
New member
And thanks for the support, Jeremy. Haters gonna hate.
Jeremy Blaze
Former Reef Addict
Hey, bud, I've tried to help and offer advice over the last two years.
I just was stating what I have seen, ove3r the last 20 years, I personally know at least 10 people wwho have gone out got loans to start a fish business only to defualt and go bankrupt.
If you have the funds to burn up for years before you ever open thats grea,t I guess.
Glad to hear you are still pushing forward though.
I just was stating what I have seen, ove3r the last 20 years, I personally know at least 10 people wwho have gone out got loans to start a fish business only to defualt and go bankrupt.
If you have the funds to burn up for years before you ever open thats grea,t I guess.
Glad to hear you are still pushing forward though.
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