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That is another question I had as well> Where do they get the water that is already cycled because it looks like they set up and then as soon as the water is in they dump in fish. in short many dead fish. I would like to see them to do a follow up on the setups that they have did.....ie what fish are still in the tank from the first day.
 
I've had 5 different systems since 07 and only one has been cycled (I barely consider it a cycle). It you transfer live sand, live rock, etc from an established system into a new system, you can easily avoid a cycle. I don't think this is a secret.
 
I agree I can't help myself not to watch the show but they definitely do not know what they're doing when it comes to stocking the tank and the tanks filtration. So far I havent seen them setup one practical or even responsible tank! And I think I've seen one Skimmer so far!
 
The bio media in the filters is already biologically active from a giant system at the shop for those occasions and they also seed it with a comercial grade bacteria that they will actually be bringing to market soon for faster cycle times. The interview Bret did at MACNA explained this.

Pathetic that you feel this is enough of a proccess.... Just plop in tap water + salt + their supposidly seeded bioballs + bacteria in a bottle + 20 cartons of fish and wallah close your eyes and say a short prayer and success. Most of us know that this doesn't work and shame on you supposed proffesionals that are defending this.
 
It's obvious to me that there are people here thathave already decided they know exactly how everything is set up based on a few short clips put together over many weeks of time to make up ability 50 minutes of footage. Why are we even having this discussion. All of the pros that know they are doing it wrong should go offer to take over their business for them. Obviously you all can do it better!
 
I cant believe how many of you think its the water that has to cycle. The cycle in these types of tanks takes place in the bioballs, this is where the bacteria grow. If the bioballs came from an established system, (which they do) Then the system is cycled. The water being fresh and the tank being new has no bearing whatsoever on the cycle. So yes, if you have a large wet dry full of highly populated bioballs and add water and fish then you will be fine. It seems some people have no idea what really takes place in a cycle. The fresh water and new tank have absolutely nothing to do with the cycle.

Ayef12, explain to me your profesional opinion of why this wouldn't work. Since you seem to think that there's some other magical thing going on in a new tank. A cycle is 100% based on the bacteria growing on the media that convert Amonia to Nitrite, to Nitrate, This bacteria grows on the bioballs, thus if the bioballs came from a highly populated tank then they will continue to do there job in the new tank.
Also, who told you that its tap water and not RO water? Just because you see a hose doesn't mean that hose isn't coming from a large holding tank of RO mixed saltwater. I have never seen them mix salt in the tank so clearly the hose filling the tank is pre-made saltwater.
 
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Pathetic that you feel this is enough of a proccess.... Just plop in tap water + salt + their supposidly seeded bioballs + bacteria in a bottle + 20 cartons of fish and wallah close your eyes and say a short prayer and success. Most of us know that this doesn't work and shame on you supposed proffesionals that are defending this.

What's pathetic is that you can spew ignorance without any facts based solely on what you may do on your tank at home. Who cares about a process. If the reason for the process is to achieve a final result and that same result can be achieved by another method then the process is just time wasted.

You don't have access to a established bio media to start a tank at home so you need to cycle the tank. If you use established media from another system then the tank will not cycle. As for a skimmer.... it's not a necessary piece of equipment to keep fish or coral alive. I am running an sps tank without a skimmer for the past 2 years.
 
I think we're done here. Not sure why we can't discuss anything without name calling.
 
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