Target feeding zoanthids: What?

widmer

Drug Enthusiast
My LFS is selling nice nice little colonies of zoanthids as "frags" (for $10 ea btw) so I picked up one that's got a great fluorescent green color to it. After doing a lot of reading about the zoanthids, I've determined that they stand to benefit a ton from target feeding. So I tried mashing up some fish food flakes, mixing them with SW and then directing it through an airline tubing at the zoanthids. They didn't seem too interested, though, as they just kind of let the flake bits slide right off without trying to retain them at all. Am I doing something wrong here? What do you guys do that works?
 
I've never really seen much in the way of feeding behavor in any of my zoanthids. I've stopped trying to feed them. They'll close up on food, but I'm not sure that they're not just irritated because they're being touched. They usually open up later and the food floats away. Palythoa, however, are vicious. They'll snap up anything they can.
 
I use Cyclop-eez & rods food. I mix the Cyplo-eez & Rods food in a shot glass....I drop a few drops of DT's Phytoplancton in it... BUT heres what I have learned...I wait an hour or so for the corals to start looking for food, They wont do it if the lights are on. After that I suck some of the mix up into a syringe & then I target feed them.. They all come out & bloom....It is so awesome to see them
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12521222#post12521222 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Flipper62
I use Cyclop-eez & rods food. I mix the Cyplo-eez & Rods food in a shot glass....I drop a few drops of DT's Phytoplancton in it... BUT heres what I have learned...I wait an hour or so for the corals to start looking for food, They wont do it if the lights are on. After that I suck some of the mix up into a syringe & then I target feed them.. They all come out & bloom....It is so awesome to see them

Wow I'll have to try this.... Thanks for the advice!
 
The first 2 days after I added my Sun Cups...they just looked ok. BUT the next day.. I Target fed them an hour after the lights were off.......
Hers what they did...

sunpolups2.jpg
 
Did you feed them sour patch kids? It looks like they're puckering.

(lol I'm not familiar with sun cups, they look great though.)
 
I'm not sure if I care for imageshack. What online host do you guys use? Photobucket doesn't seem to work with my mac as far as uploading photos...
 
Here's a post of mine from another thread a few days ago...

"Many many zoanthids exhibit no prey capture, at least not with something as large as a rotifer which is quite small by coral food standards. I probably have dozens of varieties of zoanthids and very few will benefit from target feeding. Most zoanthids, what is often refered to as seatmats, are highly autotrophic and probably receive the remainder of their nutrition from absorbing various compounds, bacteria, and taking in tiny particulate matter.

In short, with many zoanthids you're wasting your time by blasting them with a turkey baster full of marine snow (or similar) and cyclopeeze. Lastly, the smaller polyped and closely spaced zoanthids that form mats that are popular in the hobby seem to be the least likely to exhibit prey capture."

Also, phytoplankton, phytoplex, and similar products rank somwhere between useless and poor when it comes to coral food and it probably right at that useless mark with most corals.
 
I don't target feed my zoanthids. Some of them catch there own mysis shrimp though.

I use photobucket for image hosting.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12521511#post12521511 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Peter Eichler

Also, phytoplankton, phytoplex, and similar products rank somwhere between useless and poor when it comes to coral food and it probably right at that useless mark with most corals.

lol that's kind of funny. Quality post, though. But I wonder where your information is from, as far as the strong feelings against feeding zoanthids. I read a very detailed article about the zoanthids last night, and the writer seems to be certain that zoanthids benefit heavily from feeding. Here's the page:

http://www.reefs.org/library/aquarium_net/0198/0198_1.html
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12521591#post12521591 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by widmer
lol that's kind of funny. Quality post, though. But I wonder where your information is from, as far as the strong feelings against feeding zoanthids. I read a very detailed article about the zoanthids last night, and the writer seems to be certain that zoanthids benefit heavily from feeding. Here's the page:

http://www.reefs.org/library/aquarium_net/0198/0198_1.html

I don't quite get how what I said turns into me being "strongly against feeding zoanthids". That article doesn't really go against anything I just said... Also, notice I singled out the smaller polyps that are most common in the trade now. The larger polyps (usually called Palys whether they are or not) are more likely to take food and many do. In that article he didn't mention Zoanthus species once when he talks about feeding which is what most of the "pretty" zoas are in the hobby are. However, some larger Zoanthus species will exhibit prey capture. It's worth a shot trying to get a zoanthid to accept a prepared food, but the colorful, smaller, more tightly clustered polyps rarely do. Read this part again and you'll see what I'm talking about.

"Therefore, the relative proportions of each organic food source may not be critical for these animals. Some zoanthids may not be observed to feed at all, while others are capable of ingesting rather large pieces of food. One small colony of very large Palythoa individuals was observed swallowing an entire bay scallop. Of course, this is not a normal food item for a zoanthid, but when one foolishly attempts to balance a small plate of "reef foods" on the top edges of the corner of an aquarium, accidents may (and do) happen...thus, let this be one of those lessons....
when faced with the a choice between the distinct possibility of a disaster or "oops" caused by the inane and self deceptive behavior of the aquarist regarding the statistical probability of a circus performer-like balancing act, or the likelihood of forces of the physical world actually taking precedence over one's own hopes to the contrary that such natural laws can be "willed" into not happening, it is best to force oneself to remember the outcome of most previous such happenstances and opt for the method of actually using sane judgment and working in consort with the laws of the universe when attempting any such actions.
Thus, we can see that some zoanthids may enjoy feedings, some (especially certain azooxanthellate Acrozoanthus and Epizoanthus) may require food, and others may not even accept food that is offered to them...instead turning up their tentacles and stomping off in a huff at the audacity of such poor culinary choices. If a zoanthid is large and seems to rapidly consume food, one can assume that it will benefit from occasional feedings. Otherwise, they are likely getting enough from the immediate environment."
 
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