Temporary Hospital Tank

[machodik]

Dear All,

As my Powder Blue Tang have been getting so thin (inspite of aggressively chasing pellets), so I decided to have it cure for possible suspect of internal worms.

I have finally located our LFS whom willing to sell me some medicine (that is uses for Discuss) , fyi, Taiwan's Authority band the selling of medicine in local fish store ....crazy idea.

So, I would like to set up a 20 liters old tank , I wil have a small sponge filter to be serve as filtration. but I have found out my old small AZOO skilmer will not be fit to work. so questions in a coarse of 5 days to a week, if I don't. have any skimer at all, will that be OK?

I am now saving some RO water for my preparation of salt mixing.

Hope you give me your best comments and suggestions...thanks

 

[foxsavage]

Yes you can keep them with no skimmer, just test daily for ammonia and nitrite and do water changes to keep them in check.

 

[machodik]

Yes you can keep them with no skimmer, just test daily for ammonia and nitrite and do water changes to keep them in check.

Thanks for your advise.

As per the direction of the said treatment, I shall add 2 types of medicine powder form and keep for 48 hours then have 50% water change before adding the next batch. this proceedures will be repeated in about 3 times, so almost a week before the coarse completed.

By the way, the med is for treating Discuss, can I use them in the sea water fish? also, should I treat all the fish or just only the one that is suspected with internal worm?

MD

 

[sandwi54]

First of all, go TAIWAN!!! I am going back for vacation in the middle of May, so if you need any medications, I can bring the common ones with me and we can meet up in 台北車站.

Can you list the ingredients of the medication? Typically dewormers are praziquantel and metronidazole. I usually use prazipro, which works very well.

I would treat the entire tank, because if one fish has worms, the whole tank may be infested. The worms do lay eggs in the tank.

I would not worry about the skimmer. As a matter of fact, the skimmer should be turned off because during any treatment because it could remove the medication.

 

[machodik]

First of all, go TAIWAN!!! I am going back for vacation in the middle of May, so if you need any medications, I can bring the common ones with me and we can meet up in 台北車站.

Can you list the ingredients of the medication? Typically dewormers are praziquantel and metronidazole. I usually use prazipro, which works very well.

I would treat the entire tank, because if one fish has worms, the whole tank may be infested. The worms do lay eggs in the tank.

I would not worry about the skimmer. As a matter of fact, the skimmer should be turned off because during any treatment because it could remove the medication.

Thanks Sandwi54, it is so kind of you to help me bring some med. well, really appreicated it and hope you help me bring bought, as I really have hard time to find med for de-worm , white spot etc. this is the law that dept of health have imposed since last year. I will pay you when we met. please let me know when you will be arriving and I make sure I will not be travelling abroad by then. will pm you my mobile number too and shall be meeting you by then.

You mentioined that I need to treat the whole tank, but I have some corals and it will be a big mess to removed everything, specially now that my water parameter have just doing to the stabilizes stage. I wonder if the the eggs of the worms will be attachded to those LR or the glass. could you teach me how I can totally removed those thing without going to that major task.

I dont have the list of teh medications, as the guy in our LFS give me 5 different bottles of powder that only numbeer distincquish among them. this is the store selling mostly Discus. as I also treating my other tank that I raised discus and he told me it is also can be applicable to my salt water fish too. I lost 1 discus during the first treament and he said this is normal for those weak one. today is the 2nd corse, will check when got home later this afternoon if the rest is ok.

I set to treat my salt water fish after the 2nd corse of my discus and if the on going is smooth , then I can try with my salt water fish by then.

Cheers,

MD

 

[sandwi54]

Thanks Sandwi54, it is so kind of you to help me bring some med. well, really appreicated it and hope you help me bring bought, as I really have hard time to find med for de-worm , white spot etc. this is the law that dept of health have imposed since last year. I will pay you when we met. please let me know when you will be arriving and I make sure I will not be travelling abroad by then. will pm you my mobile number too and shall be meeting you by then.

You mentioined that I need to treat the whole tank, but I have some corals and it will be a big mess to removed everything, specially now that my water parameter have just doing to the stabilizes stage. I wonder if the the eggs of the worms will be attachded to those LR or the glass. could you teach me how I can totally removed those thing without going to that major task.

I dont have the list of teh medications, as the guy in our LFS give me 5 different bottles of powder that only numbeer distincquish among them. this is the store selling mostly Discus. as I also treating my other tank that I raised discus and he told me it is also can be applicable to my salt water fish too. I lost 1 discus during the first treament and he said this is normal for those weak one. today is the 2nd corse, will check when got home later this afternoon if the rest is ok.

I set to treat my salt water fish after the 2nd corse of my discus and if the on going is smooth , then I can try with my salt water fish by then.

Cheers,

MD

I know discus often come in with worms and need to be de-wormed. The most common drug is praziquantel and it's pretty effective. I hope that's the one you have. I will bring back prazipro (contains praziquantel) and cupramine for ich and velvet. I may bring back some maracyn 2 which is antibiotics, but it typically only has a one-year expiration date.

Unless you know the exact ingredients of the dewormer you have, I would not dose it into the display tank. If you have a quarantine tank with a cycled filter, put all of the fish there and dose it there, while leaving the display fallow for 6 weeks to starve the worms.

 

[machodik]

I know discus often come in with worms and need to be de-wormed. The most common drug is praziquantel and it's pretty effective. I hope that's the one you have. I will bring back prazipro (contains praziquantel) and cupramine for ich and velvet. I may bring back some maracyn 2 which is antibiotics, but it typically only has a one-year expiration date.

Unless you know the exact ingredients of the dewormer you have, I would not dose it into the display tank. If you have a quarantine tank with a cycled filter, put all of the fish there and dose it there, while leaving the display fallow for 6 weeks to starve the worms.

thanks for your advise.

My DT is about 280 liters while I have 2 spare tank (20 liters and 30 liters water volume) that I am going to make use as temporary Hospital / Quanrantine tank. I have total of 9 fishes, do you think that for 6 weeks to kept them in either one or using both of the said spare tanks will be safe for them to stay for that duration?

I really wanted to totally get rid of those worms from my DT. so wanted to make a thourough yet safety proceedures in this regard.

Will much appreciatred for further guidleines.

Cheers,

MD

 

[machodik]

any good advises and further guidelines ???

 

[machodik]

Further to my questions about setting up a hospital tank......

Yesterday, incidentally, I have a long free day to be alone at home (wife and daughther not at home), so I decided to take out all the Live Rocks inorder for me to have a better hand to chase and catch all those fish, now, all my 10 fishes have been caught and transfer to my spare tanks (a 40 liters tank), I added in this temporary quarantine tank as follows;

1) Air pump
2) a small hangging filtration motor
3) a double cone sponge filter
4) couples of skimo house (for hidding)

so, I am worry about the ammonia spike, so I make use half old water + half new water, plus used filter pad from my Display tank.......its 2nd day now, so fish is still ok. and now my questions that I need anyone of you kind hearted fellows habbyist to give me some good advises.........

I will keep my 10 fishes in this 40 liters tank ( I know it is a kind of "tight") but in view to totally eradicate those pathogenic worms from my main display tank, AND THIS MEANS AT LEAST 6 LONG WEEKS FOR THEM TO STAY HERE, I to have say sorry to my small little creature for the time being, I am worry about these questions:

1) SHOULD I HAVE TO PUT A SMALL PROTEIN SKIMMER???
2) although I already taken out all fishes....but I supposed there is still some small creature hidding there in my main tank (crabs, small lobster and possible some mantis shrimps (as I have caught one along the way)...so will these creature left behind there will be the host for this pathogenic worms???

Cheers,